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Old 02-12-2009, 09:07 PM   #76
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It does puzzle me why Kindle owners act as if it's the first and only eReader on the market, but let them have their fun.
That's a pretty broad stroke you just painted there. But, as a Kindle owner I certainly do not do the above. You can tell by my messages here. As a matter of fact my "first" eReader was a Sony PRS500. I also had a Jetbook for about a month as an eval unit.

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Old 02-12-2009, 09:18 PM   #77
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I found this site because I was looking for information about the Kindle...I was pretty convinced I wanted one. After reading tons of information and posts on mobileread, I'm now leaning toward the Sony 505, despite the release this week of the Kindle 2. I think individual owners have "biases" because they've found the products they like or love, which IMHO adds to the debate and discussions. Please keep sharing your biases with all of us!
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:58 PM   #78
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Valloric, I was referring to a pattern of behavior over time (several months), not one specific instance. A single annoying post is easy to ignore, and does not offend.
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Valloric, I was referring to a pattern of behavior over time (several months), not one specific instance. A single annoying post is easy to ignore, and does not offend.
I think I can safely say that not a single person on this board thinks less of anyone just because they prefer the Kindle as their reading device. There are people who dislike the Kindle (I for instance dislike the K1, but I actually like the K2), but only on it's own merits. I don't think it's useless to everyone else. If I we're living in the States, I'd probably buy the K2 (whispernet and Amazon's pricing and availability are very tempting).

But I do think that on average, the Sony Reader is better. That's just me though. Everyone else is entitled to their opinion, and I welcome hearing it.

If someone here said that the Reader is crap, why would I be offended by that? Or even bothered? I'd debate it with them, try to convince them that it's a great device, but only for their sake. I already know it's amazing. If they still disagree, well... their loss. I certainly couldn't care less if the person continued to yell from the top of their lungs how the Reader is terrible, crap or whatever.

And no one here does anything even remotely similar, for the Reader or the Kindle. All I see is well-argumented debate, and that doesn't make me want to ignore anyone, quite the opposite... it makes me want to join in.
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:06 AM   #80
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I'd have to agree that the Kindle news volume here is main a reflection of the news volume outside the site. You can't link to articles that don't exist and I don't there was nearly as much world press for the Sony reader as the Kindle. Heck it's even being reported as big news in the places you can't get it.
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Old 02-13-2009, 05:52 PM   #81
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It does puzzle me why Kindle owners act as if it's the first and only eReader on the market, but let them have their fun. If I wanted a Kindle 2.0 (and I did think about it briefly) I would buy one. But honestly, to me all eReaders are basically the same. I picked the Sony because it had good fit and finish and was more affordable than the others.
I first heard about electronic paper years ago, but I had no idea there were already usable e-ink devices available to the public until the Kindle. (That and trying to find a demo Kindle at Fry's one day and only finding a Sony e-reader, lol!) It's a problem with marketing on the part of other e-reader manufacturers. Amazon has played the Kindle hard, and it's working.

As far as all e-readers being equal... well, I'd rather go with the company that has a huge, established & stable library behind them. Seeing that nobody has quite figured out a good DRM model, it's good to stick with the big guys until the solution arrives. Or else you're stuck with a) a proprietary file type or DRM that went digitally extinct, or b) being at the mercy of what you can find that has a more or less global format that is open-source. Thankfully with ebooks, guys like the founder of Project Gutenberg have been conscientiously working on keeping e-books in usable formats for years.

Edit: By the way, the Kindle talk is only going to get worse until the Mobile Read Kindle giveaway is over. You gotta register AND participate in the community to be eligible, and how many people who are hoping to win a Kindle 2 will really care about other topics?
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Old 02-13-2009, 07:27 PM   #82
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I don't think there Sony is a bias here really Sony but rather enthusiastic individuals Sony who sometimes get defensive of their favorite reader Sony . Overall everyone is very helpful Sony and respectful of one another Sony and we all share one common thing Sony ebook reading. Afterall it is not the brand Sony of reader that you have rather that you have one Sony you enjoy.

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Old 02-13-2009, 07:31 PM   #83
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I don't think there Sony is a bias here really Sony but rather enthusiastic individuals Sony who sometimes get defensive of their favorite reader Sony . Overall everyone is very helpful Sony and respectful of one another Sony and we all share one common thing Sony ebook reading. Afterall it is not the brand Sony of reader that you have rather that you have one Sony you enjoy.
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Old 02-13-2009, 07:36 PM   #84
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Old 02-13-2009, 07:37 PM   #85
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I don't think there Sony is a bias here really Sony but rather enthusiastic individuals Sony who sometimes get defensive of their favorite reader Sony . Overall everyone is very helpful Sony and respectful of one another Sony and we all share one common thing Sony ebook reading. Afterall it is not the brand Sony of reader that you have rather that you have one Sony you enjoy.
I'm sony - I'm not sure what point you're trying to make...
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Old 02-14-2009, 12:14 AM   #86
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I don't think there Sony is a bias here really Sony but rather enthusiastic individuals Sony who sometimes get defensive of their favorite reader Sony . Overall everyone is very helpful Sony and respectful of one another Sony and we all share one common thing Sony ebook reading. Afterall it is not the brand Sony of reader that you have rather that you have one Sony you enjoy.
ROFLMAO. Thank you I needed that. (Crappy day at work. UGH.)
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Old 02-14-2009, 12:20 AM   #87
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Old 02-14-2009, 08:47 PM   #88
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Old 02-14-2009, 09:35 PM   #89
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Couldn't the over-representation of Sony discussions on this forum be a natural outcome of the way our Reader needs to interact with its content?

1. Sony owners are *required* to interact with a PC to get our content.
2. Calibre. It's mentioned in Sony and Amazon reviews as a must-have. It's the only way to get magazines and newspapers.
3. Sonys need more format translation on the PC (for various reasons: can't get a book from Sony, Kindle doesn't support ADE, etc.).

So we Sony owners have to look into these fora (forums?) to learn how to get the most out of our devices.
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I think that probably the main reason there are more Sony users than Kindle users on these forums is that these forums are worldwide and for all intents and purposes Kindles are limited to only US users.

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