Which Colour device is best…. but?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by salamanderjuice

Not true at all. There are bargain basement QLEDs from manufacturers like TCL and Hisense (they also make their own panels). You can get them for under $500 USD. Nowhere close to top tier.

TCL makes some rather good TVs. They are not a bargain basement brand. Yes they have some low end TVs, but they also have some really good TVs. Hisense is similar.

[DNSB]

Wandering back in the direction of eInk colour panels, at this time, the best quality will be found with Remarkable's devices with a Gallery 3 screen. And please note that I said, quality not speed. While the current Gallery 3 screens are faster than the older generation, they are still not speedy.

[cellaris]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

There is nothing else to say. All eInk color devices with Kaleido 3 are rubbish.

I like colour e-readers. They offer features that neither monochrome e-readers nor tablets can provide. And when used in the best possible conditions, they’re a real pleasure to use.

[nana77]

Originally Posted by cellaris

I like colour e-readers. They offer features that neither monochrome e-readers nor tablets can provide. And when used in the best possible conditions, they’re a real pleasure to use.

While having finally tried it on hands, I would like to say that, if someone likes the inverted screen mode, there are quite no drawbacks on Kaleido 3.
I mean as to avoid the darkened whites that might be comparing it to B/W devices.
Yes there are differencies from every each device, the glass vs no glass, side buttons vs bottom ones (that becomes sided if in portrait), the Mobius I keep vs the Kaleido 3 are two things different, two ecosystems, etc.. but ofc I like the two.
The inverted screen on Pocketbook, apart no needing of reboot, keeps the covers' colors on home screen untouched (other than being 9 years newest).

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by cellaris

I like colour e-readers. They offer features that neither monochrome e-readers nor tablets can provide. And when used in the best possible conditions, they’re a real pleasure to use.

What features do color eInk with Kaleido 3 overlays provide that you cannot get from an iPad with an OLED screen?

[salamanderjuice]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

What features do color eInk with Kaleido 3 overlays provide that you cannot get from an iPad with an OLED screen?

Reading in direct sunlight as has already been mentioned multiple times...

Not needing a backlight/frontlight.

Less distractions since you can't jump over to YouTube and watch a 4 hour video essay (at least with any decent quality).

It's the same as an iPad vs. eInk except with color.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by salamanderjuice

Reading in direct sunlight as has already been mentioned multiple times...

Not needing a backlight/frontlight.

Less distractions since you can't jump over to YouTube and watch a 4 hour video essay (at least with any decent quality).

It's the same as an iPad vs. eInk except with color.

You can up the brightness of the OLED iPad so you can see the screen outside.

With a Kaliedo 3 overlay, you will need a frontlight more often as you'd need more ambient light to see the screen well enough.

Yes, less distractions. However, the iPad is better at playing audiobooks..

If you read comics, you'll get a much better display with the iPad as the colors won't be washed out.

[cellaris]

Everyone can choose whichever they prefer: a tablet with a matte screen, a colour e-reader with Kaleido 3, or a monochrome e-reader (Carta 1200). This is one possible scenario, but there are many others where the choice may vary.

The point is that when we talk about colour e-readers, we always assume the worst-case scenario (black text without the light on, and of course without any reference to colour, which is why people buy this type of device), whereas with tablets or monochrome e-readers, the scenario is always the best-case scenario. We’re not talking about using a tablet on the beach in summer or in a park in winter under the sun, nor are we talking about a monochrome e-reader for viewing colour content. Every device has its purpose and its best or worst possible use. Colour e-readers certainly don’t excel at anything: they don’t have excellent contrast, nor natural and vibrant colours, and their screen without using lighting is too dark for reading novels (with colour, it’s a different story). But they aren’t incomplete devices; you can use them, for better or worse, to read anything and in any situation. You can read a novel and view colour content, something you cannot do with a monochrome e-reader. Or you can read with or without lighting, indoors or outdoors, something you cannot do with a tablet. If used in the best possible way, in the way that provides the best viewing experience, it can bring great satisfaction to its users. And indeed it does. Colour e-readers are not products that are poorly rated by their users. There will be those who don’t like them at all (just as I don’t like reading on a tablet), but for many people they are perfectly acceptable and, even with their limitations, they prefer them to monochrome e-readers or tablets. Fortunately, there is space for all these devices and for all our preferences. But I simply cannot understand this obsession with repeating over and over again that colour e-readers are useless. And the worst thing is that it doesn’t even reflect the reality of e-reader users.

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by Quoth

OLED is inherently the most limited in brightness, even though some OLED are brighter than LCD. The QLED has the most potential for brightness, though it's an LCD with green and red "quantum" dots to change the blue LED backlight.

If OLED or LCD has "glare" then it's either too bright, or a shiny surface or both. The eink are mostly matte due to micro textured plastic or micro etched glass.

Whatever is reflected on a glossy screen will be reflected with the same brightness on a matte screen—only with a matte finish

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

You can up the brightness of the OLED iPad so you can see the screen outside.

With a Kaliedo 3 overlay, you will need a frontlight more often as you'd need more ambient light to see the screen well enough.

Hmmmmm? I don't need it outdoors with the Kaleido 3.
And it's still much clearer to see than with the full light-up device.

[dandaman]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Whatever is reflected on a glossy screen will be reflected with the same brightness on a matte screen—only with a matte finish

There's nano-texture on iPad Pro, if you're willing to pay.

[ottischwenk]

Originally Posted by dandaman

There's nano-texture on iPad Pro, if you're willing to pay.

This one also reflects on it. The only option would be to add a colorant, but that would alter the color

[dandaman]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

This one also reflects on it. The only option would be to add a colorant, but that would alter the color

It also reflects? So what's the point?

[Quoth]

Originally Posted by ottischwenk

Whatever is reflected on a glossy screen will be reflected with the same brightness on a matte screen—only with a matte finish

Not on a good matte screen. A poor one does indeed simply smear the reflection. You may not have seen good matte screens as they dramatically reduce the reflected light.

[ottischwenk]

You may not have seen good matte screens as they dramatically reduce the reflected light.

Reflection can only be prevented with a coating