New top of the line Kindle on its' way next week - Page 6

aceflor · 04-12-2016, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ezzkmo

I love how the last 2 names (Voyage and Oasis) both hint at water, yet they do not have a waterproof version yet. BN and Kobo have had waterproof versions for awhile now, and they cost the same or less. Almost nobody needs 20-month battery life on 1 charge. But some people read in the tub, on the beach, etc. and would appreciate some protection from water.
/end rant

How does "Voyage" hint at water ? (I am French btw

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pdurrant · 04-12-2016, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by aceflor

How does "Voyage" hint at water ? (I am French btw

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Voyage is most often used in terms of the sea (or space). One usually takes a voyage on a ship. It would be unusual (perhaps even wrong) to say that one went on a voyage by train.

aceflor · 04-12-2016, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

Voyage is most often used in terms of the sea (or space). One usually takes a voyage on a ship. It would be unusual (perhaps even wrong) to say that one went on a voyage by train.

Well, in French we use it for travel or trip. So, un voyage en train, en avion, en bateau, en moto, en voiture, it all works for us. Voyager is a verb = to travel. Thus my question.

xtech · 04-12-2016, 07:45 AM

According to the leaked images, the "top of the line" kindle is the top dissapointment of the year for many e-readers.

meeera · 04-12-2016, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by aceflor

How does "Voyage" hint at water ? (I am French btw

).

I can't speak for how it's used in French, but in English there is an implication that a voyage is a loooong journey. Which, from England, necessarily involves travel over sea.

jswinden · 04-12-2016, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate the great

It's auto-reversible:
http://the-digital-reader.com/2016/0...trical-design/

Yes I can see that, but I don't give a crap. I still hate devices designed for righties only. Just because you can rotate a stupidly designed device does NOT make it okay. Rotation messes up the ergonomics in more than one way. For one thing cases open backwards, upside down, etc. Logos also get rotated.

The fact is that Amazon cannot significantly improve the lacklusterness of eInk screens, so they come up with all kinds of non-screen related BS to throw on the design hoping to get the weakminded to not notice they won't be getting a significantly better screen. The actual reading of text is the most important innovation, and I have not seen any major improvements in eInk or built-in lighting in a long time. All the lipstick in the world won't change a pig from being a pig.

kobayashi · 04-12-2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

The actual reading of text is the most important innovation, and I have not seen any major improvements in eInk or built-in lighting in a long time.

Um, you might try reading next time. The Oasis has 60% more LEDs for a brighter, more evenly lit screen.

pdurrant · 04-12-2016, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kobayashi

Um, you might try reading next time. The Oasis has 60% more LEDs for a brighter, more evenly lit screen.

Not, IMO, a major improvement, although more even lighting is welcome. And I can't imagine needing brighter than a Paperwhite! (Now, more gradations at the lower end might be welcome - for the difference between reading in a blacked out room, and in a merely dark room.)

treadlightly · 04-12-2016, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

Yes I can see that, but I don't give a crap. I still hate devices designed for righties only. Just because you can rotate a stupidly designed device does NOT make it okay. Rotation messes up the ergonomics in more than one way. For one thing cases open backwards, upside down, etc. Logos also get rotated.

I would not even say it is designed for righties. *Because* I am right-handed I hold my coffee, fork, spoon, etc in my right hand so I want to turn pages with my left.

newkindlefun · 04-12-2016, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jswinden

Yes I can see that, but I don't give a crap. I still hate devices designed for righties only. Just because you can rotate a stupidly designed device does NOT make it okay. Rotation messes up the ergonomics in more than one way. For one thing cases open backwards, upside down, etc. Logos also get rotated.

The fact is that Amazon cannot significantly improve the lacklusterness of eInk screens, so they come up with all kinds of non-screen related BS to throw on the design hoping to get the weakminded to not notice they won't be getting a significantly better screen. The actual reading of text is the most important innovation, and I have not seen any major improvements in eInk or built-in lighting in a long time. All the lipstick in the world won't change a pig from being a pig.

It's not designed for righties only. In fact, this one seems specifically designed for both hands and doesn't even have logos that could be turned upside down or make it look wrong. It's just equally functional both ways, and the first device in a long time to go that way. You don't have to be hostile.

As for better screen, that's something I agree with. Even lighting might finally be upon us, but that says nothing about the actual blackness of the text. I hope that's majorly improved. We won't know until we see more about the device and get reviews.

howyoudoin · 04-12-2016, 12:30 PM

If one were to put a case on a paperwhite (for instance), and hold it in their left hand instead of the right, it already reverses the position of the case flap. I honestly do not get the hostility to the supposed flipping of the case on this wedge shaped device for lefties.

Edit: And besides, the wedge design exists only if the device is used without the case. With the case on, it reverts to the flat tablet design.

Barbara1955 · 04-12-2016, 12:33 PM

Hummm 8 Days anyone heard any thing?

newkindlefun · 04-12-2016, 12:44 PM

I think it's often supposed to be used without the case, that's how it's advertised. They also mention weight without the case, but not with it. I think it'll be heavy...

I dunno, I keep looking at it. It's growing on me little by little. I hope it's not annoying to turn over when it's not in the case. Also hope these leaks are controlled and they left out some major information.

cvkemp · 04-12-2016, 01:15 PM

I have looked at it and what I believe is the case for it. Well the case of course is set up for a righted handed person. I am a lefty. To use the page buttons I would have to take it out of the case.
I have a PW2 and a voyage. As long as they work for me I will not be updating.

Avwriter · 04-12-2016, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by newkindlefun

I think it's often supposed to be used without the case, that's how it's advertised. They also mention weight without the case, but not with it. I think it'll be heavy...

I dunno, I keep looking at it. It's growing on me little by little. I hope it's not annoying to turn over when it's not in the case. Also hope these leaks are controlled and they left out some major information.

I wonder if the case will be any heavier than the current official Voage cover, which is quite heavy, being made of magnetic material.

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04-12-2016, 07:45 AM	#79
xtech Zealot Posts: 100 Karma: 500010 Join Date: Apr 2016 Device: Kobo Aura One, Sony DPT-RP1, Ipad Pro	According to the leaked images, the "top of the line" kindle is the top dissapointment of the year for many e-readers.

04-12-2016, 12:30 PM	#86
howyoudoin how YOU doin? Posts: 1,100 Karma: 7371047 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: India Device: Kindle Keyboard, iPad Pro 10.5”, Kobo Aura H2O, Kobo Libra 2	If one were to put a case on a paperwhite (for instance), and hold it in their left hand instead of the right, it already reverses the position of the case flap. I honestly do not get the hostility to the supposed flipping of the case on this wedge shaped device for lefties. Edit: And besides, the wedge design exists only if the device is used without the case. With the case on, it reverts to the flat tablet design.

04-12-2016, 12:33 PM	#87
Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,454 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	Hummm 8 Days anyone heard any thing?

04-12-2016, 12:44 PM	#88
newkindlefun Connoisseur Posts: 76 Karma: 91298 Join Date: Apr 2016 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 3rd gen (2015)	I think it's often supposed to be used without the case, that's how it's advertised. They also mention weight without the case, but not with it. I think it'll be heavy... I dunno, I keep looking at it. It's growing on me little by little. I hope it's not annoying to turn over when it's not in the case. Also hope these leaks are controlled and they left out some major information.

04-12-2016, 01:15 PM	#89
cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,412 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 5,iPhone 13, IPad, MacBook Air	I have looked at it and what I believe is the case for it. Well the case of course is set up for a righted handed person. I am a lefty. To use the page buttons I would have to take it out of the case. I have a PW2 and a voyage. As long as they work for me I will not be updating.

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