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Old 05-05-2015, 11:37 AM   #76
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Yep, thanks ApK. Everyone seems to be looking at the copyright aspect in isolation. This is all happening in a much wider context and other laws will (or should) continue to apply.
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I thought that's the whole point of the argument:
Copyright is a limited-time granted monopoly on intellectual property, and here automakers are trying to extend the blanket of that monopoly onto auto parts, mechanical services, and other things it was never intended to cover. i.e, use it anti-competitively.
I dot believe that you can still buy 'Official' parts and install them yourself.

What they have done is circumvented the law that previously allowed 'knock-off' replacements. (Not an exact copy)

What is now being blocked is the extended Diagnostic tools. (California Emissions law REQUIRES that the diagnostic port interface correctly with emissions testing equipment. So basic info is still available)
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The manufacturers are trying to frame this as a safety issue. It is not. Automobiles have been modified way beyond the manufacturer's spec for as long as there has been automobiles. Anytime I see an argument based on Fear I give it extra inspection. Fear is the default way to motivate people nowadays and I am very tired of it. It is easy enough to outlaw actually dangerous modifications without blocking all access. There is a financial profiteering motive behind this not a safety one.
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As well as my Unisyn (those with SU's will know ), Vacuum gauge and Timing light.
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As well as my Unisyn (those with SU's will know ), Vacuum gauge and Timing light.
Amen, fellow "Motor Heads." ... and Karma to you, too.
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