If you are going to upgrade

[Josieb1]

As we had three Kindle Keyboards plus a few replacements we got mains plugs with those devices.

I have always used them for whatever kindle I have, it's never been a problem.

[Marseille]

Originally Posted by booklover6

While I would like the Voyage, I will wait for a significant sale.

This is pretty much where I'm at. I have buttons + light with my K4 + lighted case, but it's almost as heavy as 2 K4s, and I've been feeling the heft more and more while reading in bed lately. The unadjustable light also displeases me (too bright at night).

The voyage's other features don't grab me, but getting the light+buttons in a lighter (and err, umm, also dimmer ) package is something I'd like someday. And if I know Amazon, someday, there will be discounts, coupons and bundles (oh my!).

[HYPE]

I'm interested in buying a Voyage, but that'll depend on when it comes out in Canada and whether I'll feel like shelling out 250$ for it when it happens.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

The problem with Cloud Collections is that every time you make a collection change or add a new book to your kindle the kindle is trying to sync with the Cloud, it's even worse if you use whispersync.

I had a case where I was helping someone with a Kindle, WiFI was turned on and the collections on the Kindle were lost. The eBooks were still there, but the collections were gone.

Is there a way to prevent this?

[IluvToRead]

I 'll be upgrading to a Voyage. I bought my Kindle 4 in March 2012. It got me through Uni. What a Godsend. I cannot tell you how many times I've needed a book real quick and I just get it straight away. I really enjoy the page turn buttons on the Kindle 4. The K4 has lasted me well, still works perfectly. I'm really looking forward to the 300 ppi, that will be a nice improvement from 167 ppi that I currently have on the K4. I'm pretty excited.

I live in Australia, so I probably wont be getting a wifi Voyage until January sometime.

Read ! Read ! Read !

I have an Onyx Boox m92 for reading pdfs (that was also a Godsend). I'd love a 300 ppi 9.7" eInk reader.

I do wonder how the Voyage will go for pdfs. The K4 was useless for pdfs, that's why I got the Onyx m92.

See what happens.

[Josieb1]

[QUOTE=JSWolf;2937397]I had a case where I was helping someone with a Kindle, WiFI was turned on and the collections on the Kindle were lost. The eBooks were still there, but the collections were gone.

Is there a way to prevent this?[/QUOTE

It's happened to me too I have no idea why it how to prevent it.

[Pangolin]

Voyage for me too After a few days too-ing and fro-ing.

But, very much wanted 3G. PW1 in the safe hands of my mum, and my dyed-in-the-wool 'no ereader for me' father is now keen to give my PW2 a whirl from November. So I don't feel too bad.

if it is as good as described by tech reviewers, I shall stop there.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

It's happened to me too I have no idea why it how to prevent it.

This is one reason why I do not have a Kindle. I don't want to spend my time and effort to setup collection and organize my on device library just to have that all go away when I turn on WiFi.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

This is one reason why I do not have a Kindle. I don't want to spend my time and effort to setup collection and organize my on device library just to have that all go away when I turn on WiFi.

All I can say is that has never, Never, NEVER happened to me... the fact that it *did* happen once should not be taken as a condemnation of Kindles.

And it wouldn't really matter anyway. All device collections managing is a crapshoot, it's better to manage them in calibre. In which case, it really doesn't matter what the servers say, it can always be reset.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

All device collections managing is a crapshoot, it's better to manage them in calibre.

Sony has the best collections. I can use Calibre to manage collections very easily. Better then any other brand that I know of.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Sony has the best collections. I can use Calibre to manage collections very easily. Better then any other brand that I know of.

So basically, you agree with me that managing collections on the device, any device, is horrible, and it should be managed by calibre.

Which, may I add, is available for the Kobo as well, and Kindle through a really simple hack.

Obviously, the Nook is left out because they are too cool for collections altogether...

[badgoodDeb]

Collections: ok you are convincing me to try Calibre for more than just the few format conversions I've already done. Do I just hook up my kindle and Calibre sucks it all out, or what? Do I need to deDRM or other junk first? (I usually don't bother with that; just keep files in amazon's archive). But for collections -- I'm willing to do a little work. Three step guide?

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

Collections: ok you are convincing me to try Calibre for more than just the few format conversions I've already done. Do I just hook up my kindle and Calibre sucks it all out, or what? Do I need to deDRM or other junk first? (I usually don't bother with that; just keep files in amazon's archive). But for collections -- I'm willing to do a little work. Three step guide?

If you don't have a touchscreen Kindle, then simply:

1. Install the [GUI Plugin] Kindle Collections and follow the guide there.

If you have a touchscreen Kindle, then

1. Jailbreak, using the latest snapshot version HERE which installs the MKK too.
2. Add this kindlet to the documents folder of your Kindle: Collections Manager.
3. Install the [GUI Plugin] Kindle Collections and follow the guide there.

The plugin will generate a collections.json file based on calibre's metadata, you can configure which metadata to use, and books will be added to collections but not deleted (LibrarianSync has an option to wipe collections and start from scratch).

[Josieb1]

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

Collections: ok you are convincing me to try Calibre for more than just the few format conversions I've already done. Do I just hook up my kindle and Calibre sucks it all out, or what? Do I need to deDRM or other junk first? (I usually don't bother with that; just keep files in amazon's archive). But for collections -- I'm willing to do a little work. Three step guide?

Calibre has a Kindle collections plug in for Kindle Keyboards, I'm not sure what other Kindle it works for, certainly not any of the lighted devices

Edited to say, unless it's jail broken i assume

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

Calibre has a Kindle collections plug in for Kindle Keyboards, I'm not sure what other Kindle it works for, certainly not any of the lighted devices

Edited to say, unless it's jail broken i assume

Yep, the plugin works for all Kindles (except the very very first one) but starting with the Touch you need to jailbreak and use the Collections Manager in order to load the collections.json into the database. That is because Amazon moved the collections database into the hidden system partition after people complained that tools like this (used improperly I would bet, and the tool I am thinking of was not developed here on MR) messed up their collections.