PW1 Update! PW2 feature parity! - Page 6

HarryT · 03-24-2014, 10:25 AM

Yes, unless you have a US account, you won't get Goodreads integration.

Robmonster · 03-24-2014, 01:40 PM

You do still get the FreeTime system though.

Chi Cygni · 03-25-2014, 06:48 AM

I decided not to upgrade. I have my fav. font, I can't be bothered to star/unstar whatever and convert my books AGAIN just to embed fonts of my choice. <insert big exaggeration here> it starts to resemble nuclear physics. Part of the features as I understand is not available to non US people. And frankly all I need I already have and I am fine with it. I am not interested / don't even want to know.

GoSharks · 03-25-2014, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi Cygni

I decided not to upgrade. I have my fav. font, I can't be bothered to star/unstar whatever and convert my books AGAIN just to embed fonts of my choice. <insert big exaggeration here> it starts to resemble nuclear physics. Part of the features as I understand is not available to non US people. And frankly all I need I already have and I am fine with it. I am not interested / don't even want to know.

I'll put you down as an 'Undecided' then..... (

)

twowheels · 03-25-2014, 01:36 PM

For me, my favorite "feature" was the fact that I no longer randomly get a page flip forward & back when I'm trying to turn the "page". I used to get that about 5% of the time, but I haven't seen it even once since the upgrade.

(though yesterday I did see it do a weird triple flip, but it ended up in the right spot, so it's like they added some code to detect that it flipped back and fixes it)

Chi Cygni · 03-25-2014, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoSharks

I'll put you down as an 'Undecided' then..... (

)

I am very much 'decided'

and the more I read about the change the happier I didn't upgrade. I was sideloading anyway so no difference.

Josieb1 · 03-28-2014, 05:59 AM

I must admit everything about the Paperwhite, apart for actually reading a book, is getting more annoying now. If I could combine Amazon's store, customer service and the tech reliably with the Kobo ereaders things would be perfect.

I have two main ereaders that I use regularly, a PW1 and a Kobo Aura, and I'm insured with the PW for another 18 months so I am sorted until at least the end of 2015. Once I need a new e-ink ereader I have no idea what I'd get as the assumption I'd always have a Kindle is starting to wane.

HarryT · 03-28-2014, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I must admit everything about the Paperwhite, apart for actually reading a book, is getting more annoying now.

Such as what, for example?

Josieb1 · 03-28-2014, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Such as what, for example?

Cloud Collections and Fonts are my two bugbears.

I sideload via USB now to get an embedded font as I prefer not to use the fonts that Amazon load on the Paperwhite. Every time I add a new book or move it into a collection I get pop up messages, at least two for each book, it's a real pain.

I don't want to see hubby's books so all his collections are unstarred. I use an iPad mini as well and nothing syncs properly between iOS app and our kindles. I have duplicate collections on the iPad. Empty collections where I actually sideload on the Paperwhite but the collection appears in the Kindle app.

It's all getting messy now and tbh I doubt I'd buy another Kindle unless something substantially changes.

soulfuldog · 03-28-2014, 08:23 AM

I'm just avoiding any issues by using Calibre plugboards instead of collections, but I'm not really that bothered about using collections. I don't store a lot of books on my Kindle, nor do I sync between devices (I use my PW & a Sony 350 so 'sync' manually!), but that's not really an answer for many people.

Even though Amazon have tried to improve things, what they've done with collections is really a pain, and a bit like Josieb1, as much as I like my PW2, I'm not sure I'd replace it with another Kindle in future unless there are changes.

tomsem · 03-28-2014, 06:24 PM

As another 'data point', I never had much use for collections prior to Cloud Collections, because they didn't sync between devices and were far too much work to maintain, and they just created 'clutter'. I like the changes, as I switch between devices frequently and it makes it super easy to do that. I just have a handful of collections so I can track what I'm currently reading, what I have not read, and what year I finish reading something. They work perfectly for my requirements.

The available fonts are plenty for me, and with the update, navigation is bliss. I'd like to see better typography (optional hyphenation, orphan control, consistent line spacing) but my expectations for that are pretty low (publishers aren't exactly leading the charge).

Software-wise the only major thing I'd like to see is better way to manage and export annotations. myclippings.txt and kindle.amazon.com are not at all adequate. What would be nice is an additional Home screen option to share or save or email annotations/highlights for a selected book.

I don't see myself getting another eink device, unless something breaks, or there's some major improvement with the technology (which seems unlikely). OTOH I mostly prefer to read on my PW1 because it is generally more pleasant to read on than the other devices I also use.

cadele · 03-28-2014, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josieb1

Cloud Collections and Fonts are my two bugbears.

I sideload via USB now to get an embedded font as I prefer not to use the fonts that Amazon load on the Paperwhite. Every time I add a new book or move it into a collection I get pop up messages, at least two for each book, it's a real pain.

I don't want to see hubby's books so all his collections are unstarred. I use an iPad mini as well and nothing syncs properly between iOS app and our kindles. I have duplicate collections on the iPad. Empty collections where I actually sideload on the Paperwhite but the collection appears in the Kindle app.

It's all getting messy now and tbh I doubt I'd buy another Kindle unless something substantially changes.

Is is possible to embed the font in Calibre and then use the Send To Kindle program so that you aren't actually sideloading? It might be a solution although you have to fiddle with the conversion.

Luckily I only have one collection. I just use one called 'read' and then everything else on my Kindle is either being currently read or in the queue.

I appreciate it must be very frustrating for those who have lovingly created their many collections with the current situation.

Can't stand that star, personally.

eschwartz · 03-28-2014, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadele

Is is possible to embed the font in Calibre and then use the Send To Kindle program so that you aren't actually sideloading? It might be a solution although you have to fiddle with the conversion.

Unfortunately, no. Only KF8 (.azw3) supports embedded fonts. And Send-to-kindle only accepts .mobi, or several others for conversion to .mobi; while it is possible I believe to send a dual-formatted MOBI, you then lose the cover. And possibly other problems.

thatworkshop · 03-29-2014, 02:43 AM

Well, for such reasons, I stayed with my K3 and it had been way better for me than KT or KPW.

Leiga · 03-29-2014, 04:42 AM

I love the plastic screen.

I guess will not stay good the glass screen.

I will change when launch one with bigger screen. If the same size, i continue stay happy with my KPW2.

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03-24-2014, 10:25 AM	#76
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Yes, unless you have a US account, you won't get Goodreads integration.

03-24-2014, 01:40 PM	#77
Robmonster Wizard! Posts: 250 Karma: 548228 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Device: Paperwhite, Voyage + Oasis2	You do still get the FreeTime system though.

03-25-2014, 06:48 AM	#78
Chi Cygni 秋子 permanently lurking Posts: 844 Karma: 6590735 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Europe Device: Oasis 3, Pocketbook Era	I decided not to upgrade. I have my fav. font, I can't be bothered to star/unstar whatever and convert my books AGAIN just to embed fonts of my choice. <insert big exaggeration here> it starts to resemble nuclear physics. Part of the features as I understand is not available to non US people. And frankly all I need I already have and I am fine with it. I am not interested / don't even want to know.

03-25-2014, 01:36 PM	#80
twowheels Wizard Posts: 1,855 Karma: 13432974 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kobo Clara HD, iPad Pro 10", iPhone 15 Pro, Boox Note Max	For me, my favorite "feature" was the fact that I no longer randomly get a page flip forward & back when I'm trying to turn the "page". I used to get that about 5% of the time, but I haven't seen it even once since the upgrade. (though yesterday I did see it do a weird triple flip, but it ended up in the right spot, so it's like they added some code to detect that it flipped back and fixes it)

03-28-2014, 05:59 AM	#82
Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,100 Karma: 18051062 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kindle Scribe, Coloursoft, PW SE, Kindle 6, Kobo Libra 2, Clara BW	I must admit everything about the Paperwhite, apart for actually reading a book, is getting more annoying now. If I could combine Amazon's store, customer service and the tech reliably with the Kobo ereaders things would be perfect. I have two main ereaders that I use regularly, a PW1 and a Kobo Aura, and I'm insured with the PW for another 18 months so I am sorted until at least the end of 2015. Once I need a new e-ink ereader I have no idea what I'd get as the assumption I'd always have a Kindle is starting to wane.

03-28-2014, 08:23 AM	#85
soulfuldog I ♥ Calibre Posts: 2,073 Karma: 5678911 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis, Voyage, Sony PRS-350, Hudl2	I'm just avoiding any issues by using Calibre plugboards instead of collections, but I'm not really that bothered about using collections. I don't store a lot of books on my Kindle, nor do I sync between devices (I use my PW & a Sony 350 so 'sync' manually!), but that's not really an answer for many people. Even though Amazon have tried to improve things, what they've done with collections is really a pain, and a bit like Josieb1, as much as I like my PW2, I'm not sure I'd replace it with another Kindle in future unless there are changes.

03-28-2014, 06:24 PM	#86
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,011 Karma: 27060353 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	As another 'data point', I never had much use for collections prior to Cloud Collections, because they didn't sync between devices and were far too much work to maintain, and they just created 'clutter'. I like the changes, as I switch between devices frequently and it makes it super easy to do that. I just have a handful of collections so I can track what I'm currently reading, what I have not read, and what year I finish reading something. They work perfectly for my requirements. The available fonts are plenty for me, and with the update, navigation is bliss. I'd like to see better typography (optional hyphenation, orphan control, consistent line spacing) but my expectations for that are pretty low (publishers aren't exactly leading the charge). Software-wise the only major thing I'd like to see is better way to manage and export annotations. myclippings.txt and kindle.amazon.com are not at all adequate. What would be nice is an additional Home screen option to share or save or email annotations/highlights for a selected book. I don't see myself getting another eink device, unless something breaks, or there's some major improvement with the technology (which seems unlikely). OTOH I mostly prefer to read on my PW1 because it is generally more pleasant to read on than the other devices I also use.

03-29-2014, 02:43 AM	#89
thatworkshop hub Posts: 715 Karma: 2151032 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Iranian in Canada Device: K3G, DXG, Kobo mini	Well, for such reasons, I stayed with my K3 and it had been way better for me than KT or KPW.

03-29-2014, 04:42 AM	#90
Leiga Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2	I love the plastic screen. I guess will not stay good the glass screen. I will change when launch one with bigger screen. If the same size, i continue stay happy with my KPW2.

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