Onyx Boox M96 - Page 6

ManDay · 01-30-2014, 01:11 PM

Thanks for the heads up joblack. I'm really looking forward to the device. My experiences with the M92 were mostly satisfactory, so I will not hesitate to buy the M96 when it comes out.

I put high hopes in Android. Even today I'm still frustrated with how the M92 went to waste (althought it's still a fine device) with such a poor software. It's a shame that even the most basic features one could expect were missing. This and a note-taking application which transliterated to pretty much "just so you can't claim we hadn't included a note-taking application"*. Great hardware, so much potential gone to waste because of poor software choices.

Hope it will all be better with Android and the option to write your own apps (just in case).

* But "Gomoku"... If everything else fails or is missing, we still have "Gomoku"...

Feher · 02-02-2014, 06:22 PM

M95, M96: Are there any talks of frontlight being made possible for large devices like M95/M96?

FantoM · 02-22-2014, 07:38 AM

Zeng says here that M95 isn't going to have frontlight. About M96 I didn't find anything.
It would be a great improvement if they manage to include frontlight in a 9.7'' e-reader.

JHarry · 02-22-2014, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FantoM

Zeng says here that M95 isn't going to have frontlight. About M96 I didn't find anything.
It would be a great improvement if they manage to include frontlight in a 9.7'' e-reader.

So do I

FinancialWar · 03-07-2014, 07:55 PM

Why is the resolution for the 13" so low? Same ppi as the M92 at 150, that was the ppi standard 4 years ago. This is 2014.

I was hoping for something larger and sharper and with front-lid.

A 13 e-ink with at least 200 ppi with front-lid running Android would be the best for reading scientific paper/textbooks.

Will just have to wait for second or even third generation 13" reader from Sony or Onyx or others.

skobie78 · 03-13-2014, 04:05 PM

The M92 was supposedly exhibited at CeBit http://www.cebit.de/product/m96/428165/H285221
[Image violates guidelines for size - MODERATOR]

The photo is different to that on Onyx's facebook:
[Image violates guidelines for size - MODERATOR]

iampiti · 03-14-2014, 08:43 AM

Look like the hardware is pretty much the same as the M92 except for the Bluetooth, RAM and processor.
Anyway, I just repaired my M92 so I will give this one a pass.

Feher · 03-14-2014, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FantoM

Zeng says here that M95 isn't going to have frontlight. About M96 I didn't find anything.
It would be a great improvement if they manage to include frontlight in a 9.7'' e-reader.

So it is sort of confirmed that there will be no Frontlight in M96

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

The 8 inch ereader i86 looks better. It has Frontlight and higher display resolution.

Any news from Pocketbook?
They are working on Android for Pocketbook CAD and they might release android in other form factors as well.

FantoM · 03-14-2014, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feher

So it is sort of confirmed that there will be no Frontlight in M96

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Yes... And I see no reason for making M95 (if they're thinking about it), it's just the same but with a little worse specs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feher

The 8 inch ereader i86 looks better. It has Frontlight and higher display resolution.

Any news from Pocketbook?
They are working on Android for Pocketbook CAD and they might release android in other form factors as well.

I also think i86 is very good, but I need a little bigger e-reader and I would like stylus too

About PocketBook CAD, I think there's no relevant news. They will release it just in August

(post).

Dan23 · 03-15-2014, 09:52 AM

I got excited thinking the M96 picture was the 13.3 inch device and just read it is a 9.7. What happened to the 13.3?

ManDay · 03-15-2014, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan23

I got excited thinking the M96 picture was the 13.3 inch device and just read it is a 9.7. What happened to the 13.3?

Nothing that we'd know of

Feher · 03-15-2014, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FantoM

I also think i86 is very good, but I need a little bigger e-reader and I would like stylus too

Ah, I forgot about the stylus when making a distinction between the two. I still hope they bring a HD version of M96. Zeng's quote on HD screen

zeng · 03-15-2014, 11:18 PM

The HD screen is just too expensive, so we have to stick to current normal screen but with better processor. We will ship the first batch of M96 this Month (March). The M95 is removed from our product list as we cannot see any reason for end user to choose low end 9.7 product.

Unfortunately, the 13.3 will be delayed as we need to invest quite lot of money in 13.3 project. The marketing is not good enough. We get some sales data of SONY PRS T1 from certain channel. And another important reason is that we should finish i86 at first. Hopefully, we should be able to finish development on April. We will continue the 13.3 once we finished i86.

ManDay · 03-16-2014, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeng

Unfortunately, the 13.3 will be delayed as we need to invest quite lot of money in 13.3 project. The marketing is not good enough. We get some sales data of SONY PRS T1 from certain channel.

Heh, I wonder how revealing the Sony sales really are, given how specialized their trade is and how *ahem* unusual their software stack (remember, only PDF).

13.3" is certainly a very narrow niche, but I think if you can offer a fair deal, it's about as wide as that for 9.7". If one goes for large, one goes for really large. That said, I predict in the long run all current 9.7" users qualify as possible 13.3" customers.

If you can pull this off at an affordable rate and less prototype'ish than the only current two other competitors, Onyx will likely make a head-start on tapping segments which were beyond the reach of a 9.7". I can tell for sure that 13.3" is just over the threshold of the professional sector: Engineering, science, construction, etc.

9.7" is too small for the folks which need technical stuff on a regular basis (as a physicist myself, I use the 9.7" for books, but those don't contain drawings to the extent, say, an applied researcher needs daily).

With a bit more work on Onyx' relations, you might even find funding by the educational sector and eventually make you a profitable deal for sales. At least here in Europe, where universities are often state-run, they spend millions of EUR on the silliest investments. If you do it right, it should be a piece of cake to have them invest in something as useful as a reasonably sized e-reader.

Mono · 03-17-2014, 08:22 AM

I guess ManDay may be right. 10" is too small to be comfortable for academic reading even for people with good eyesight. Not speaking of old proffesors....

13'' is just right. But beside the size also the speed matters. It is true that it takes time to read A4 page in tiny print. But it is handy to be able to flip pages fast to allow reader quick reference. Slow flipping might be a problém for certain users.

01-30-2014, 01:11 PM	#76
ManDay E-Reader Posts: 274 Karma: 1606616 Join Date: Oct 2012 Device: DPT-S1	Thanks for the heads up joblack. I'm really looking forward to the device. My experiences with the M92 were mostly satisfactory, so I will not hesitate to buy the M96 when it comes out. I put high hopes in Android. Even today I'm still frustrated with how the M92 went to waste (althought it's still a fine device) with such a poor software. It's a shame that even the most basic features one could expect were missing. This and a note-taking application which transliterated to pretty much "just so you can't claim we hadn't included a note-taking application". Great hardware, so much potential gone to waste because of poor software choices. Hope it will all be better with Android and the option to write your own apps (just in case). But "Gomoku"... If everything else fails or is missing, we still have "Gomoku"... Last edited by ManDay; 01-30-2014 at 01:14 PM.

03-13-2014, 04:05 PM	#81
skobie78 Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 181956 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: Sony PRS-T1, Onyx M92, Onyx Boox Max	The M92 was supposedly exhibited at CeBit http://www.cebit.de/product/m96/428165/H285221 [Image violates guidelines for size - MODERATOR] The photo is different to that on Onyx's facebook: [Image violates guidelines for size - MODERATOR] Last edited by Dr. Drib; 08-09-2014 at 06:42 PM.

03-15-2014, 09:52 AM	#85
Dan23 Connoisseur Posts: 73 Karma: 600000 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: Scribe, Paperwhite 6.8"	I got excited thinking the M96 picture was the 13.3 inch device and just read it is a 9.7. What happened to the 13.3? Last edited by Dan23; 03-15-2014 at 09:59 AM.

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FinancialWar Banned Posts: 397 Karma: 85500 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sydney Device: Sony PRS350, Onyx M92, Onyx T68 (defective!)	Why is the resolution for the 13" so low? Same ppi as the M92 at 150, that was the ppi standard 4 years ago. This is 2014. I was hoping for something larger and sharper and with front-lid. A 13 e-ink with at least 200 ppi with front-lid running Android would be the best for reading scientific paper/textbooks. Will just have to wait for second or even third generation 13" reader from Sony or Onyx or others.

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zeng Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 16337 Join Date: May 2007	The HD screen is just too expensive, so we have to stick to current normal screen but with better processor. We will ship the first batch of M96 this Month (March). The M95 is removed from our product list as we cannot see any reason for end user to choose low end 9.7 product. Unfortunately, the 13.3 will be delayed as we need to invest quite lot of money in 13.3 project. The marketing is not good enough. We get some sales data of SONY PRS T1 from certain channel. And another important reason is that we should finish i86 at first. Hopefully, we should be able to finish development on April. We will continue the 13.3 once we finished i86.

03-17-2014, 08:22 AM	#90
Mono Mono Posts: 699 Karma: 13333 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Boox M92	I guess ManDay may be right. 10" is too small to be comfortable for academic reading even for people with good eyesight. Not speaking of old proffesors.... 13'' is just right. But beside the size also the speed matters. It is true that it takes time to read A4 page in tiny print. But it is handy to be able to flip pages fast to allow reader quick reference. Slow flipping might be a problém for certain users.

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