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It should be obvious by now that some publishers do more than others. That not all
authors are treated to the same service from a publisher, as other authors using the same publisher. That it turns out that it's the publisher who ends up deciding how much of a books proceeds are needed to cover the "services" provided by the publisher. It may be that a number of the "services", including editing, that are touted as in the publisher's province, can be available to an author outside of the BPH, perhaps at some point, in a more effective and less expensive fashion. Some authors may come to find that there are what they may have expected from the BPH, to be available from separate service providers. I wonder how many authors might come to ask themselves, How much of my book's returns goes to pay for services at the BPH that I don't need or use? How much went to pay for services to support a more favored author's project? Luck; Ken Last edited by Ken Maltby; 04-12-2013 at 12:58 AM. |
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Not to say there aren't a few authors out there (Scott Turow may be one of them, though I never felt he deserved it) who get the red carpet treatment. But they are the very rare exception, rather than the rule. And exceptions don't do much to skew the average. |
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Once upon a time publishing was a "magical" mystery that took place in a black box where manuscripts went in and occasionally books and royalty checks came out. Those in the know weren't talking; they were the "sacred" gatekeepers and happy to keep it that way. But those days are over. These days there are no secrets and those that know are talking. The pushback against Turow and traditional publishing isn't because people don't know what is involved in getting a book to market but rather because they now know *exactly* what it takes. Many authors are firing up their spreadsheets and figuring out for themselves what it costs to contract freelancers (laid off from the BPHs) to provide the exact same quality service as the BPH-contracted formatters, cover artists, proofers, editors... And when they tally the value of those services and weigh them against giving up 85% of the book's proceeds for a century and more...well, the numbers don't add up. There is this perception that indie publishing is the domain of newcomers and wannabes and there are certainly a lot of them. But the real indie publishing revolution and the bulk of the pushback is coming from experienced, previously-published authors who *know* what trad-pub did for them (or *to* them) and are finding the new model more to their liking. The biggest winners are the authors who the old model neglected and marginalized. Look to the examples in the SALON piece above. Not a one is a wide-eyed, wet behind the ears slush pile reject. Those people *know* the value of traditional publishing contracts and they know the price attached to the BPH services is simply too high to bear for them. Turow is a different creature, of course; he is nicely covered and if he ends up surrendering 75% of his work's revenue, he is still well rewarded. His books get promoted, for starters. His books don't get buried on a back shelf, spine-out, two-to-a-store for three month before getting returned for credit towards the next celebrity ghost-written "masterpiece". For him, the old system works fine and his biggest concern is that the BPHs are getting squeezed and they might just start treating him like the other 99% of the published authors his guild pretends to represent. And he is right to worry. Any day now, he'll cough up a book that doesn't quite meet quota. And the beancounters will look at the ledgers and stick a little red flag next to his name and the next time his agents sit down to negotiate... Who knows? Maybe that is where his luddite angst comes from; maybe his last advance wasn't quite up to his expectations. Or maybe the last BPH contribution to the AG coffers was a bit light... The American author isn't dying. He is simply a freelancer who is tired of beging for piecework and scraps and is setting up shop on their own. And discovering that modest success is a heck of a lot better than no success at all. Look around, that story is all around us; in the blogs, in the news, in the ebookstores and their press releases. (B&N, of all outfits, is bragging of their indie sales!) And the story is also in the words and deeds of the BPHs and their execs. They are nowhere near as clueless as Turow. They all have their exit strategies in place; just ask Pearson... Last edited by fjtorres; 04-12-2013 at 09:34 AM. Reason: Big Typo |
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On the subject of time and effort put in by publishers someone posted the response above but Charlie Stross's original post on self-publishing he estimates it at 1/3rd of the writing time:
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There's a thousand-and-one stories like this out there:
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When going through a pulisher and store, an author gets a very small cut of the price of a sold book. These authors live in the digital age. They could self-publish their eBooks, and set up their own web stores. Then, they'd get a much higher amount of money in the end, and if a publisher wants a paper version in stores, he can come to the author, instead of the other way around. It's not the authors that are dying: it's the publishers. |
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Lament how you would like it to be all you want (rhetorical you). But the smart money is being spent on the way it is--and the way it's going to be. Technology isn't killing anything. Nostalgia and complacence, however, are going to be slitting throats willy-nilly. Last edited by DiapDealer; 04-12-2013 at 09:50 AM. |
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Heh, it looks like Turow inspired a *lot* of folks.
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Worth a weekly visit just to see what the established *writers* are seeing and what they're doing when it comes down to betting their livelihood. Last edited by fjtorres; 04-12-2013 at 09:55 AM. |
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B&N and the department stores may not (yet) carry indie pbooks but Amazon does. And new ventures are emerging to get indie pbooks into indie bookstores and other interested venues. One thing I've learned is that very small print runs (hundreds to thousands) are affordable to self-publishers (a few bucks a copy). That is why the emerging term to describe the migration of established authors away from traditional publishing is "Indie" publishing, rather than self-publishing: there is an entire support industry of *honest* service providers popping up to assist independent authors. (And no, author solutions and its siblings are not on that list.) |
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Thanks for some good links and stories from authors. Lots of great information out there.
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And the best seller authors. It's an interestign parallele to television. Before cable, there were three television networks who controlled nearly all programming. Cable fragmented that, and hundreds of new networks were created, with the better run ones making original programming. The internet has continued that process, and there are not more megalithic networks with so much control over the market that they can create popular fads.
Bad for the big networks, but infinitly more diversity for the audience. Same thing is happening right now to writing. The big, big names, who are big names partly because they're very good writers, but also partly because they were made the big names by the marketing power of the big publishers, the bestsellers, they are in big trouble, the same way that the TV stars of the most popular shows can't expect to get paid as much because the highest rated show on TV now has a fraction of the audience of a mediocre show from 30 years ago. The publishers are in trouble. But the little guy, the nobody author, has opportunity that never existed before. And we, the readers, have access to a diversity of available books that was unimaginable even ten years ago. |
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I suspect the total number of books being read right now is increasing, because there's something for everyone out there now. But even if it's the same, the money generated it going to be spread out over a lot more authors. The big names aren't going to be anywhere near as big in the future. |
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The BPHs' sins are bigger in scope and get more press so I didn't think it was necessary to beat those horses some more. I was trying to point out it isn't just the big boys (Harlequin, Penguin, et al) that run roughshod over authors. (We had the Hydra mess a couple weeks ago and there's the ongoing "Julie of the wolves" fight as recent examples.) In the KKR piece she points out one (nameless) operation that went from tolerable terms to intolerably bad overnight without any changes in personnel. Which means the issues are industry-wide and likely to bite anybody at any time; there are no inherently good guys in an industry in turmoil. It all comes down to the existing infrastructures and processes being geared to a different era and people trying to preserve them past their shelf life. Last edited by fjtorres; 04-12-2013 at 01:15 PM. |
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