Frotz curses interface for Kindle Touch (via XTerm) - Page 6

twobob · 09-05-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxStirner

Could it be possible to port Git or any other of Glulx interpreters as well? I'm asking this because the most interresting and innovative of the recently available games are created in Glulx nowadays (to mention Emily Short only whom I"m a big fan of haha.. Btw I would recommend ANY of her games blindly especially Floatpoint. My all time favourites for Z-machine are Vespers and Varicella and these are also good as a starter for the IF newbie. Good starting point is the XYZZY Awards List in my opinion.
Anyway, I don't want to be a burden, just asking. THx for the Frotz port to Fvek and twobob.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho....php?p=2601616

and specifically https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...38&postcount=3

There is an "all in one" for 3 interpreters out there too...

nasser · 09-05-2013, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxStirner

Could it be possible to port Git or any other of Glulx interpreters as well? I'm asking this because the most interresting and innovative of the recently available games are created in Glulx nowadays (to mention Emily Short only whom I"m a big fan of haha.. Btw I would recommend ANY of her games blindly especially Floatpoint. My all time favourites for Z-machine are Vespers and Varicella and these are also good as a starter for the IF newbie. Good starting point is the XYZZY Awards List in my opinion.
Anyway, I don't want to be a burden, just asking. THx for the Frotz port to Fvek and twobob.

Hello max.. glad to see another IF fan in the kindle community..

Kindles and IF seem to be made for each other.. text only.. no fiddling with graphics and colour.. and in the case of the paperwhite, sound too..

There are now kindle ports of interpreters for z-machine, glulx and tads games..

As twobob mentioned.. there's a single kual button incorporating all the three.. see: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=48

Enjoy..!

Yes.. Emily Short is one of the big names.. You played her Galatea..?

HannahChimes · 02-11-2015, 11:07 AM

(I'm using a paperwhite)
When I start a game, everything works great.
I can save, but when I try restore, it starts printing weird things like

Spoiler:

and on and on, pages of it.
It still prints the text from the game, but it's mixed in with the rest.
Even the quit command prints nearly a page of text, and the "Are you sure you want to quit?" is 3/4 of the way down.

HarryT · 02-11-2015, 11:32 AM

Sounds like you've somehow managed to turn on diagnostic information, but I'm afraid I don't know how that's happened.

HannahChimes · 02-12-2015, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

Sounds like you've somehow managed to turn on diagnostic information, but I'm afraid I don't know how that's happened.

That's what I'd guessed, but using the debug options, I can't turn it off.

kahjuay · 02-08-2016, 12:50 AM

Hi,

I had just jailbroke my PW2, and my firmware is still on 5.6.5. After the installation, frotz crashed almost immediately and I managed to see that it failed because curses wasn't initialized. The other IF interpreters such as glulxe and gargoyle seemed to crash with the same error message.

I then tried to start frotz via kterm, and this time the error message was "Error opening terminal: xterm." I saw that Frotz is compatible with PW1, could you let me know whether it is compatible with PW2 too please?

knc1 · 02-08-2016, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahjuay

Hi,

I had just jailbroke my PW2, and my firmware is still on 5.6.5. After the installation, frotz crashed almost immediately and I managed to see that it failed because curses wasn't initialized. The other IF interpreters such as glulxe and gargoyle seemed to crash with the same error message.

I then tried to start frotz via kterm, and this time the error message was "Error opening terminal: xterm." I saw that Frotz is compatible with PW1, could you let me know whether it is compatible with PW2 too please?

Check for some recent updates of those things -
At one point in the 5.6.x series of firmwares, some library versions where changed by Amazon.

eschwartz · 02-08-2016, 02:01 AM

Yeah, kterm was certainly updated to work with >=5.6.5, dunno about the others...

From the OP it sounds like it should be easy to compile.
If curses wasn't initialized it sounds like that was also updated on the Kindle, so you will need to do that^^.

gameshire98 · 02-14-2016, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kahjuay

Hi,

I had just jailbroke my PW2, and my firmware is still on 5.6.5. After the installation, frotz crashed almost immediately and I managed to see that it failed because curses wasn't initialized. The other IF interpreters such as glulxe and gargoyle seemed to crash with the same error message.

I then tried to start frotz via kterm, and this time the error message was "Error opening terminal: xterm." I saw that Frotz is compatible with PW1, could you let me know whether it is compatible with PW2 too please?

Does not work in PW2 same error "Error opening terminal: xterm"

eschwartz · 02-14-2016, 01:14 AM

Again -- did you make sure you are using the version of kterm compiled for fw5.6.x ???

pete330 · 02-14-2016, 06:34 AM

You have to set the TERM environment variable correctly before starting frotz in the terminal. If I remember correctly this worked for me: export TERM=linux. (enter this command in kterm before starting frotz or put it in the frotz startup shell script).

Frotz · 04-20-2018, 06:43 PM

I'm David Griffith, the custodian of Frotz. I recently became aware of this thread when an issue was filed on Frotz at https://github.com/DavidGriffith/frotz/issues/79 wherein this port of Frotz complains "Hard drive on fire!". That was supposed to be an indicator that something went terribly wrong with the operating system upon which Frotz was running. It happens if the $HOME environmental variable is missing. Has anyone else come across this message? I'd like to talk to whoever it was who packaged up Frotz for Kindles so we can work out this problem.

knc1 · 04-20-2018, 10:59 PM

IIRC, that is correct, the environment variable HOME is not set on Kindles for 'root'.

The user 'root' normally has a home directory backed by tmpfs, although some of our add-ins do create a storage backed "home" for 'root'.

nasser · 04-21-2018, 02:19 AM

$HOME points to /tmp/root on my pw1.
It's undefined on my pw3, kt3.
To make it work, define $HOME in a script before starting frotz.

02-11-2015, 11:07 AM	#78
HannahChimes Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2015 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Restoring error? (I'm using a paperwhite) When I start a game, everything works great. I can save, but when I try restore, it starts printing weird things like Spoiler: [stopped: success] [Procedural rulebook] [Turn sequence rulebook] [parse command rule] [before reading command rulebook] for Reading a command rulebook [before Constructing the status line rulebook] (Insert pages of garbage specific to the command and game). (insert the text I'm supposed to see). > [before Constructing the status line rulebook] [after Constructing the status line rulebook] and on and on, pages of it. It still prints the text from the game, but it's mixed in with the rest. Even the quit command prints nearly a page of text, and the "Are you sure you want to quit?" is 3/4 of the way down.

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02-11-2015, 11:32 AM	#79
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,560 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Sounds like you've somehow managed to turn on diagnostic information, but I'm afraid I don't know how that's happened.

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kahjuay Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2011 Device: Kindle Keyboard, Kindle PW32GB	Hi, I had just jailbroke my PW2, and my firmware is still on 5.6.5. After the installation, frotz crashed almost immediately and I managed to see that it failed because curses wasn't initialized. The other IF interpreters such as glulxe and gargoyle seemed to crash with the same error message. I then tried to start frotz via kterm, and this time the error message was "Error opening terminal: xterm." I saw that Frotz is compatible with PW1, could you let me know whether it is compatible with PW2 too please?

02-08-2016, 02:01 AM	#83
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Yeah, kterm was certainly updated to work with >=5.6.5, dunno about the others... From the OP it sounds like it should be easy to compile. If curses wasn't initialized it sounds like that was also updated on the Kindle, so you will need to do that^^.

02-14-2016, 01:14 AM	#85
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Again -- did you make sure you are using the version of kterm compiled for fw5.6.x ???

02-14-2016, 06:34 AM	#86
pete330 Connoisseur Posts: 70 Karma: 200233 Join Date: Aug 2013 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	You have to set the TERM environment variable correctly before starting frotz in the terminal. If I remember correctly this worked for me: export TERM=linux. (enter this command in kterm before starting frotz or put it in the frotz startup shell script).

04-20-2018, 06:43 PM	#87
Frotz Member Posts: 13 Karma: 750010 Join Date: Jan 2013 Device: kindle touch	I'm David Griffith, the custodian of Frotz. I recently became aware of this thread when an issue was filed on Frotz at https://github.com/DavidGriffith/frotz/issues/79 wherein this port of Frotz complains "Hard drive on fire!". That was supposed to be an indicator that something went terribly wrong with the operating system upon which Frotz was running. It happens if the $HOME environmental variable is missing. Has anyone else come across this message? I'd like to talk to whoever it was who packaged up Frotz for Kindles so we can work out this problem.

04-20-2018, 10:59 PM	#88
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	IIRC, that is correct, the environment variable HOME is not set on Kindles for 'root'. The user 'root' normally has a home directory backed by tmpfs, although some of our add-ins do create a storage backed "home" for 'root'.

04-21-2018, 02:19 AM	#89
nasser Evangelist Posts: 477 Karma: 445678 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: Too many..	$HOME points to /tmp/root on my pw1. It's undefined on my pw3, kt3. To make it work, define $HOME in a script before starting frotz.

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