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Pretty sure that Giggleton isn't looking out for his own self interest, he can download whatever he wants for free, that train has left the station. Instead he's arguing for his ideology. Are they the same, no, while connected ideology is also about what people consider the common good for us as a group. Quote:
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if Copyright was done away with right now, the publishers would do all they could to make it more difficult to copy, since they would have nothing to protect their investments otherwise.
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Also, copying is in our nature, go with the flow as they say. |
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Copyright allows control of media by the rightful owners (under current law). Copyright allows property owners to profit from their content and control how it is perceived and distributed (if at all). Censorship is a 3rd party (government) preventing access to media/content based on political, legal, or moral grounds. The obvious distinction is that copyright places media under the control of the owner; censorship removes control from the owner and/or the potential consumer. Under current law a consumer has no 'right' to access copyrighted material (the owner decides whether it is available or not), so copyright is not taking anybody's rights away. Content doesn't enter the public domain as soon as it's created. In short: Copyright - the creator/owner of media has the right to control how (or if) it is distributed Censorship - access to content is controlled by the government regardless of the wishes of the content creator or consumer I am OK with an author refusing to sell me their book, as I believe (and the law agrees with me) that intellectual property belongs to the author, but I am not OK with the government telling me I can't read a book because they disagree with it on political or moral grounds (though I have no issue with censorship of certain grossly illegal content). Copyright isn't perfect, but it serves a purpose. |
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Censorship determines what content is legally permitted to be distributed. Copying is not the key here, but using the word makes your argument seem logical when it actually isn't. You can't equate an artist's rights to control their property with censorship. Censorship restricts freedom of expression, copyright doesn't. Copyright merely lets an artist control what happens with their personal acts of expression. |
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Just sharing other people's creations is not showing any creativity at all, nor expressing who they are. |
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The easiest example is a mix tape made on a specific theme, where you need the full songs, in a specific order, to get the right emotional impact. Or making a soundtrack to a movie or tv show clips. Another example is a collage, like the mosaic pictures made of photographs. Creating a mix of books would be more difficult, but not impossible; creating a mix of book chapters or short stories would be easy. That's what anthology editors do, and it's very much considered a creative act. There are other potential examples; some of them are fairly strange. However, the fact that there are creative uses of entire sets of other people's creations, doesn't mean that the 1st amendment always trumps copyright law. The first amendment has been interpreted to mean the state needs a compelling interest to limit free speech, not that the state is not allowed to restrict free speech. |
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There is a slight difference in that anthology editors put their works together with the permission of the copyright owners if still in copyright, they don't just steal them to pass off as their own work...
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Copyright has very little to do with determining ownership. Copyright is a system of controlling copying. |
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