Cybook Gen3 e-reader in September 2007 for $350 - Page 6

levirothschild · 08-01-2007, 05:46 AM

Hei,
Do you guys know if there is an ebook reader which supports DJVU file format?
If not is there anyway of making DJVU to work on an ebook?

Alexander Turcic · 08-01-2007, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by levirothschild

Hei,
Do you guys know if there is an ebook reader which supports DJVU file format?
If not is there anyway of making DJVU to work on an ebook?

Well, it's off-topic; but you may want to look at the iRex iLiad. Scotty created a DJVU Viewer for it based on Java: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10813

levirothschild · 08-01-2007, 10:21 AM

Hei,
I found a way to convert DJVU to PDF! HIHI I am so happy! now I want my hands on the Cybook. What do you guys think? Is the Cybook a good choice? I want my math books on it.

JSWolf · 08-01-2007, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by levirothschild

Hei,
I found a way to convert DJVU to PDF! HIHI I am so happy! now I want my hands on the Cybook. What do you guys think? Is the Cybook a good choice? I want my math books on it.

Why would you want PDF? For all we know, PDF support might be as poor as it is on the Sony Reader. Do you want to take that risk? PDF for books is a really bad idea. No reflowing of text, no font size changes. For a portable reader, reading books in PDF just doesn't work well enough. The solution to the problem would have been to just not have PDF support at all.

Hadrien · 08-01-2007, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Why would you want PDF? For all we know, PDF support might be as poor as it is on the Sony Reader. Do you want to take that risk? PDF for books is a really bad idea. No reflowing of text, no font size changes. For a portable reader, reading books in PDF just doesn't work well enough. The solution to the problem would have been to just not have PDF support at all.

Maybe in your case: not in mine. The flow of the text, and the fact that you can have both more advanced formatting and hyphenation are enough reasons for me to use PDF.

Maybe you don't need a text with "justify" done the right way, hyphenation, real footnotes and good looking chapter headings. But that's not the case for everyone.

Not using PDF, and asking for lack of PDF support are 2 VERY different things.

JSWolf · 08-01-2007, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hadrien

Maybe in your case: not in mine. The flow of the text, and the fact that you can have both more advanced formatting and hyphenation are enough reasons for me to use PDF.

Maybe you don't need a text with "justify" done the right way, hyphenation, real footnotes and good looking chapter headings. But that's not the case for everyone.

Not using PDF, and asking for lack of PDF support are 2 VERY different things.

The problem is most people see that the Sony supports PDF. And they think great, I can read these PDF files I have. And then they try to read these letter sized PDF and it turns out to be too small. Most people won't know who to deal with them to make them readable. They won't know how to create PDF that fits. PDF support is a joke. They left out pan and zoom which is what's needed to read a larger sized document on a smaller screen. In other words, SONY DROPPED THE BALL!

Lov2Read · 08-01-2007, 01:25 PM

Anyone know if they are going to take pre-orders for the Cybook? It is August 1st. This baby is going on sale in another month! Woot!

HarryT · 08-01-2007, 02:26 PM

Two months - they said "end of September"

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HarryT · 08-01-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The problem is most people see that the Sony supports PDF. And they think great, I can read these PDF files I have. And then they try to read these letter sized PDF and it turns out to be too small. Most people won't know who to deal with them to make them readable. They won't know how to create PDF that fits. PDF support is a joke. They left out pan and zoom which is what's needed to read a larger sized document on a smaller screen. In other words, SONY DROPPED THE BALL!

Don't pan and zoom really imply scrolling? You really can't scroll in any sensible manner on an eInk screen.

nekokami · 08-01-2007, 03:22 PM

The iLiad supports pan and zoom. E ink can handle scrolling, just not "live" scrolling (for lack of a better term).

JSWolf · 08-01-2007, 06:24 PM

It would be nice to have a zoom wide in landscape mode on the Sony. Then use the page up/down to navigate. Might make it good enough.

lee1234 · 08-01-2007, 11:23 PM

When is the exact release date? Love to get one.

lee1234 · 08-01-2007, 11:34 PM

Does anyone know if there are other kinds of format, beside MobiPocket's format and Sony's proprietary format, that are widely used? It seems that Iliad and Booken are following the MobiPocket's format, are there other kinds of format?

JSWolf · 08-02-2007, 01:28 AM

There are other formats. eReader is one other popular portable format that's used a lot on PDAs.

HarryT · 08-02-2007, 02:32 AM

One of the nicest things about eBook standards is that there are so many to choose from

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08-01-2007, 10:21 AM	#78
levirothschild Member Posts: 11 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: none	thnaks Hei, I found a way to convert DJVU to PDF! HIHI I am so happy! now I want my hands on the Cybook. What do you guys think? Is the Cybook a good choice? I want my math books on it.

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08-01-2007, 05:46 AM	#76
levirothschild Member Posts: 11 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2007 Device: none	Hei, Do you guys know if there is an ebook reader which supports DJVU file format? If not is there anyway of making DJVU to work on an ebook?

08-01-2007, 01:25 PM	#82
Lov2Read Book Connoisseur Posts: 71 Karma: 53 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: U.S.A. Device: Sony Reader 505	Anyone know if they are going to take pre-orders for the Cybook? It is August 1st. This baby is going on sale in another month! Woot!

08-01-2007, 02:26 PM	#83
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Two months - they said "end of September" .

08-01-2007, 03:22 PM	#85
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	The iLiad supports pan and zoom. E ink can handle scrolling, just not "live" scrolling (for lack of a better term).

08-01-2007, 06:24 PM	#86
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,612 Karma: 145864263 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	It would be nice to have a zoom wide in landscape mode on the Sony. Then use the page up/down to navigate. Might make it good enough.

08-01-2007, 11:23 PM	#87
lee1234 Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 55 Join Date: May 2006 Device: Sony Reader, Nokia E61	When is the exact release date? Love to get one.

08-01-2007, 11:34 PM	#88
lee1234 Enthusiast Posts: 42 Karma: 55 Join Date: May 2006 Device: Sony Reader, Nokia E61	Does anyone know if there are other kinds of format, beside MobiPocket's format and Sony's proprietary format, that are widely used? It seems that Iliad and Booken are following the MobiPocket's format, are there other kinds of format?

08-02-2007, 01:28 AM	#89
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,612 Karma: 145864263 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	There are other formats. eReader is one other popular portable format that's used a lot on PDAs.

08-02-2007, 02:32 AM	#90
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	One of the nicest things about eBook standards is that there are so many to choose from .

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