The fair price of entertainment - Page 6

bjones6416 · 11-08-2010, 01:24 PM

And SOLELY because I enjoy playing the devil's advocate every now and then, I did a bit of googling on the opposite end of the spectrum:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/artic...es-you-smarter

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10457411-93.html

http://www.filmgecko.net/2010/09/20/...ringe-mad-men/

http://www.edukey.net/2008/10/30/if-...e-you-smarter/

Some scientific, some not so much.

I hardly watch TV myself so I don't have a dog in this fight. I guess I just want to point out that you can find studies to support anything you want if you look hard enough. I could just as easily come up with sources to support why TV makes you stupid.

I say do what you enjoy. Life is short.

Maggie Leung · 11-08-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bjones6416

And SOLELY because I enjoy playing the devil's advocate every now and then, I did a bit of googling . ...
Some scientific, some not so much.

I hardly watch TV myself so I don't have a dog in this fight. I guess I just want to point out that you can find studies to support anything you want if you look hard enough. I could just as easily come up with sources to support why TV makes you stupid.

I say do what you enjoy. Life is short.

Yup, it's good to read up on your own, make up your own mind. Or, you could try to find it on TV, lol.

I say, if enough people think TV is good, it might be worth creating an all-TV curriculum for kids who don't learn effectively from books. If they already love TV, what the heck.

HamsterRage · 11-08-2010, 10:23 PM

What I had heard was that the imaging technology in CRT screens pushes the viewer towards alpha-wave patterns, which are associated with sleep and hypnotic states.

As I understand it, the image on a CRT isn't actually an image at all. Your eyes are perfectly capable of perceiving the electron gun "painting" the image, dot by dot, line by line, on the screen. Your brain, however, assembles the dots and fools itself into "seeing" an image.

This image assembly process, however, is extremely right brain oriented. I'm not sure if that's enough on its own, or whether the switching to left brain to comprehend the content is the key element. Anyways, the idea is that it pushes you into the alpha-wave state.

It isn't clear to me that any of this stuff holds for LCD's, plasma or projection TV's since they don't use the same pseudo-image painting technique.

Anyways, for CRT's at least, the drop into alpha-wave state is supposed to happen within a minute or two and is totally independent of the content of the programming.

Does it make you stupid? Probably not. But it probably is true that reading a book actively exercises your mind in a variety of ways that the TV content doesn't, which makes it a better mental exercise. For instance, you have to recognize the letters, words and phrases, translate those to ideas and engage you imagination to visualize the content. It could be argued that the alpha wave state induced by TV actually makes it harder to actively engage with the content of the programming and therefore exercise your mind dealing with it (at least while you're watching the content).

All of that makes sense to me, but doesn't mean that it's correct.

Namekuseijin · 02-10-2011, 03:13 PM

let's see... Shakespeare comes at the $0 price range from Project Gutenberg and public domain performances of Beethoven come at $0 from Musopen.

I guess I can demand all other minor entertainment to come for at most a third of that.

Anke Wehner · 02-11-2011, 05:36 AM

If I were designing the world...

All book would be available digitally. There would be no geographic restrictions. There should be a service comparable to a library where you can "rent" ebooks temporarily - but without the limitation of having to wait for someone to "return" a book before someone else can access it, and with a really big selection. That might be either a fixed fee, say, $30 a year, or if publishers worry too much about that, a small fee per "rental" - say, $0,50-$1.

Ebooks for people to keep permanently would be sold for $5 or less - I'm open to higher prices for "early adopters", analogous to hardcover vs paperback now.

$1 for a song I want to add to my collection to listen any time, as often as I want, seems like a fair price to me (though a bit of a "bulk discount" for an entire album is nice). I would rather that the shop lets me listen to the whole title before purchase - I really can't decide from a 30 second sample if the entire song is my thing.

Movies I'd handle and price the same as ebooks.

TV shows... I'm really not sure. I hardly watch any.

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11-08-2010, 01:24 PM	#76
bjones6416 ↓↓ Skirt!! Earrings!! Posts: 3,394 Karma: 17432172 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Georgia, USA Device: Acer netbook, JetBook Lite, Sony PRS-300, Kindle 2, Kindle Fire	And SOLELY because I enjoy playing the devil's advocate every now and then, I did a bit of googling on the opposite end of the spectrum: http://www.psychologytoday.com/artic...es-you-smarter http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10457411-93.html http://www.filmgecko.net/2010/09/20/...ringe-mad-men/ http://www.edukey.net/2008/10/30/if-...e-you-smarter/ Some scientific, some not so much. I hardly watch TV myself so I don't have a dog in this fight. I guess I just want to point out that you can find studies to support anything you want if you look hard enough. I could just as easily come up with sources to support why TV makes you stupid. I say do what you enjoy. Life is short.

11-08-2010, 10:23 PM	#78
HamsterRage Evangelist Posts: 435 Karma: 24326 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Kobo	What I had heard was that the imaging technology in CRT screens pushes the viewer towards alpha-wave patterns, which are associated with sleep and hypnotic states. As I understand it, the image on a CRT isn't actually an image at all. Your eyes are perfectly capable of perceiving the electron gun "painting" the image, dot by dot, line by line, on the screen. Your brain, however, assembles the dots and fools itself into "seeing" an image. This image assembly process, however, is extremely right brain oriented. I'm not sure if that's enough on its own, or whether the switching to left brain to comprehend the content is the key element. Anyways, the idea is that it pushes you into the alpha-wave state. It isn't clear to me that any of this stuff holds for LCD's, plasma or projection TV's since they don't use the same pseudo-image painting technique. Anyways, for CRT's at least, the drop into alpha-wave state is supposed to happen within a minute or two and is totally independent of the content of the programming. Does it make you stupid? Probably not. But it probably is true that reading a book actively exercises your mind in a variety of ways that the TV content doesn't, which makes it a better mental exercise. For instance, you have to recognize the letters, words and phrases, translate those to ideas and engage you imagination to visualize the content. It could be argued that the alpha wave state induced by TV actually makes it harder to actively engage with the content of the programming and therefore exercise your mind dealing with it (at least while you're watching the content). All of that makes sense to me, but doesn't mean that it's correct.

02-10-2011, 03:13 PM	#79
Namekuseijin affordable chipmunk Posts: 1,290 Karma: 9863855 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Brazil Device: Sony XPeria ZL, Kindle Paperwhite	let's see... Shakespeare comes at the $0 price range from Project Gutenberg and public domain performances of Beethoven come at $0 from Musopen. I guess I can demand all other minor entertainment to come for at most a third of that.

02-11-2011, 05:36 AM	#80
Anke Wehner Addict Posts: 249 Karma: 177956 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Germany Device: PRS-650	If I were designing the world... All book would be available digitally. There would be no geographic restrictions. There should be a service comparable to a library where you can "rent" ebooks temporarily - but without the limitation of having to wait for someone to "return" a book before someone else can access it, and with a really big selection. That might be either a fixed fee, say, $30 a year, or if publishers worry too much about that, a small fee per "rental" - say, $0,50-$1. Ebooks for people to keep permanently would be sold for $5 or less - I'm open to higher prices for "early adopters", analogous to hardcover vs paperback now. $1 for a song I want to add to my collection to listen any time, as often as I want, seems like a fair price to me (though a bit of a "bulk discount" for an entire album is nice). I would rather that the shop lets me listen to the whole title before purchase - I really can't decide from a 30 second sample if the entire song is my thing. Movies I'd handle and price the same as ebooks. TV shows... I'm really not sure. I hardly watch any.

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