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View Poll Results: Do you like sex/love scenes in the stories you read?
No nookie for me. I don't want to go there. 36 12.29%
Love scenes are fine if they contribute to characterization and plot. 165 56.31%
I really enjoy sexuality in fiction. 46 15.70%
Some sex is OK but only in small doses. 38 12.97%
Love scenes are why I read! 8 2.73%
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:54 PM   #76
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:57 PM   #77
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Well I read it several yours ago (and carefully !) but I'd swear Miles and Taura did it only once.
It's mentioned in _Memory_, in a scene of them together on the trip back to Barrayar.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:57 PM   #78
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Actually, I found sex in some other SF series (like "Gaea") to be more logical and purposefull then in Miles Vorkosigan, where it sometimes seemed to me it only served the purpose of spicing things up. Like Miles and Taura for example.
You keep mentioning Gaea & I'm quite interested in trying them. Unfortunately, they are not available as e-books.
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Old 04-01-2011, 04:02 PM   #79
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Can't find on Amazon, Smashwords or elsewhere.
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Old 04-01-2011, 04:25 PM   #80
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This is all just obvious blatant propaganda as part of a smear campaign, you're just trying to take Poppaea for yourself, like that sneaky Spellbinder recently tried a smear campaign on me to steal my herd...

Its spellbanisher you jackwagon! And what herd? What woman would go for someone so whiny and oversensitive? Studs don't need to complain or claim victim status. They're too busy getting laid. Everything else is just dirt off their shoulders.
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Old 04-01-2011, 04:35 PM   #81
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The thing that made me hate The Time Traveler's Wife was the sex scenes. They were worthless and contributed almost nothing to the book. For a moment it seemed like the author was going to throw something in there that would validate their inclusion, but she didn't.

When it comes to sex scenes in fiction, I prefer it to be clear cut. Implied sex is one thing, because it's usually only there to progress the story for some purpose. Explicit sex tends not to be an issue because I don't usually read the books where I find it. My biggest beef is when I find an explicit sex scene in a book that does nothing for it, ala The Time Traveler's Wife or Cory Doctorow's Makers. It just sits in there as if the publisher grabbed a generic erotic lit. piece, plugged in the names and inserted it in the book.

Annoys the heck out of me.
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Old 04-01-2011, 04:39 PM   #82
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Its spellbanisher you jackwagon! And what herd? What woman would go for someone so whiny and oversensitive? Studs don't need to complain or claim victim status. They're too busy getting laid. Everything else is just dirt off their shoulders.


Well excuse me, stud, but what exactly are you doing on your portret ?

Nighty night everyone...
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Old 04-01-2011, 04:42 PM   #83
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Old 04-01-2011, 04:42 PM   #84
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The thing that made me hate The Time Traveler's Wife was the sex scenes. They were worthless and contributed almost nothing to the book. For a moment it seemed like the author was going to throw something in there that would validate their inclusion, but she didn't.
You could say that about anything superfluous or extraneous, couldn't you? What about a superfluous conversation, or an extraneous character? What about excessive plot twists, or illogical endings? The complaints made about sex could be applied to any element of fiction. It does not matter what an author writes about, only how and why he writes about it.
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Well excuse me, stud, but what exactly are you doing on your portret ?

Nighty night everyone...
To quote Woody Allen, "Its sex with someone you love."
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Old 04-01-2011, 08:01 PM   #86
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When it comes to sex scenes in fiction, I prefer it to be clear cut. Implied sex is one thing, because it's usually only there to progress the story for some purpose. Explicit sex tends not to be an issue because I don't usually read the books where I find it. My biggest beef is when I find an explicit sex scene in a book that does nothing for it, ala The Time Traveler's Wife or Cory Doctorow's Makers. It just sits in there as if the publisher grabbed a generic erotic lit. piece, plugged in the names and inserted it in the book.
I loved the sex in Makers; it made the stories more plausible to me. I could see them as real relationships that changed over time; it helped me understand the characters because I could relate them to some of my own experiences.

I wouldn't have brought it up in this thread because, from my perspective, it dovetailed so seamlessly with the rest of the story that I have to be reminded that there were sex scenes in Makers.
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Old 04-01-2011, 09:15 PM   #87
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Piers Anthony novels would be better off with the sex scenes. Because they generally are creepy and/or involve underage girls.
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Old 04-02-2011, 12:19 PM   #88
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Old 04-02-2011, 12:41 PM   #89
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Sex scenes are perfectly fine. And sometimes horribly uncomfortable (when done right, great!). And sometimes arousing (but these can be so so cheap! You know the kind, Sexualized situations connected by tissue paper thin story elements. Yeah, we get it, the sex is the main point and if your not here for that your totally in the wrong place!)

Sex is a part of my identity and I assume the same can be said for fictional (or not) characters.
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Sex is a part of my identity and I assume the same can be said for fictional (or not) characters.
So are a lot of other bodily functions, but there is no reason to describe them in excruciating detail.
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