The Jim Butcher Files: Dresden . Codex Alera . Cinder Spires & More

[John F]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Unhappy, maybe, that it is an Amazon exclusive like The Law is. I looked and there isn't much of an uproar to be found. Novellas don't sell well, never have. So using a traditional publisher, even for a best selling author of novels, is not economical. Solution? Self publishing. Amazon only, especially also in KU, is a quick and easy way to do it.

"The Law", grumble, grumble, grumble, ... "Warrior Born", grumble, grumble, grumble, ...

Is that considered an uproar.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Unhappy, maybe, that it is an Amazon exclusive like The Law is. I looked and there isn't much of an uproar to be found. Novellas don't sell well, never have. So using a traditional publisher, even for a best selling author of novels, is not economical. Solution? Self publishing. Amazon only, especially also in KU, is a quick and easy way to do it.

Jim Butcher is a big enough author that he doesn't need to self-publish via Amazon. His publisher could release these novellas and they would sell. He has lots of fans who would buy them.

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Jim Butcher is a big enough author that he doesn't need to self-publish via Amazon. His publisher could release these novellas and they would sell. He has lots of fans who would buy them.

Since it wasn't his normal publisher, it clearly indicates to me that they would not have published it.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

Since it wasn't his normal publisher, it clearly indicates to me that they would not have published it.

But still, it's not good to have these stories on Amazon only when the rest are available in ePub.

[John F]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

But still, it's not good to have these stories on Amazon only when the rest are available in ePub.

Would you prefer it if they weren't published?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by John F

Would you prefer it if they weren't published?

Make them part of the next novel.

[Dazrin]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Make them part of the next novel.

The Cinder Spires one was part of the next novel but was cut, almost certainly at the publisher's direction. Rather than deleting it and it never getting published or waiting years for him to have enough of these ready to publish an anthology, he published it separately and independently.

Like John F said, would you prefer if it wasn't published at all?

This isn't a new thing either. He's published Dresden stuff in other locations many times (link). Digital magazines, non-related anthologies, etc., not all of which are available at all normal distribution points. It seems like you're bent out of shape more about this one being Amazon exclusive specifically, not about exclusive to one source in general.

Besides, I would be surprised if they don't show up in an anthology later on (he's done that with most of the Dresden short stories) but then you'd have to read the stories out of chronological order. Which isn't a big deal for most people since they don't push the overall story lines much. But, I appreciate that when he had a way to get them to us earlier in some form, he did it. Even though its not my normal preference.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Dazrin

The Cinder Spires one was part of the next novel but was cut, almost certainly at the publisher's direction. Rather than deleting it and it never getting published or waiting years for him to have enough of these ready to publish an anthology, he published it separately and independently.

Like John F said, would you prefer if it wasn't published at all?

This isn't a new thing either. He's published Dresden stuff in other locations many times (link). Digital magazines, non-related anthologies, etc., not all of which are available at all normal distribution points. It seems like you're bent out of shape more about this one being Amazon exclusive specifically, not about exclusive to one source in general.

Besides, I would be surprised if they don't show up in an anthology later on (he's done that with most of the Dresden short stories) but then you'd have to read the stories out of chronological order. Which isn't a big deal for most people since they don't push the overall story lines much. But, I appreciate that when he had a way to get them to us earlier in some form, he did it. Even though its not my normal preference.

The other Dresden Files short stories (except The Law) were published in anthologies that are available in ePub and on Amazon. So it's up to the reader if he/she wanted them or not before they were collected in the short story collections.

But when they are exclusive to Amazon, a lot of people cannot get them. That is just very much wrong. And either everyone can get these short stories or they don't get published. They could have been published on Smashwords for everyone if need be.

[Dazrin]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The other Dresden Files short stories (except The Law) were published in anthologies that are available in ePub and on Amazon. So it's up to the reader if he/she wanted them or not before they were collected in the short story collections.

But when they are exclusive to Amazon, a lot of people cannot get them. That is just very much wrong. And either everyone can get these short stories or they don't get published. They could have been published on Smashwords for everyone if need be.

Here is a corrected version of your first sentence: Most of the other Dresden Files short stories (except The Law and Monsters and <I'm not checking all of them>) were published in anthologies that are available in ePub and on Amazon.

There are 10 other short stories / microfiction listed that have not been anthologized yet in a JB anthology listed in the link I provided earlier. Some of the stories that are in his anthologies were never published in e-format until the anthologies came out. Backup was only at Subterranean Press per his site, so only in hardcover until the anthology. At least one of the other anthologies is also Kindle exclusive: Parallel Worlds: The Heroes Within is in KU. Many Bloody Returns doesn't look like it is available as an ebook (at Amazon at least) either.

This isn't new. When he gets enough for his own, broadly published anthology, he will do so if he follows his previous examples. Until then, he publishes things in whatever format is most convenient. He's been doing this for years. Coming up on 2 decades even.

Again, would you rather this not be out anywhere yet?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Nyssa

Thanks for the list! I'm adding the shorts stories:

0.5(a) "A Fistful of Warlocks" (short story) - Brief Cases [2018 June 5]
0.5(b) "A Restoration of Faith" (short story) - Side Jobs [2010 October 26]
1 Storm Front [2000 November 6]
2 Fool Moon [2008 July 1]
2.5 "B is for Bigfoot" (short story) - Under My Hat: Tales From the Cauldron [2012 August 28]; Working for Bigfoot [2015 June 30] & Brief Cases [2018 June 5]
3 Grave Peril [2008 November 4]
4 Summer Knight [2009 July 7]
5 Death Masks [2009 November 3]
5.5 "Publicity and Advertising" (but called "Vignette") - Side Jobs [2010 October 26]
6 Blood Rites [2010 July 5]
7 Dead Beat [2005 May 3]
7.5(a) "I Was a Teenage Bigfoot" (short story) - Blood Lite 3: Aftertaste [2012 May 29]; Working for Bigfoot [2015 June 30] & Brief Cases [2018 June 5]
7.5(b) "Something Borrowed" (short story) - My Big Fat Supernatural Wedding (October 3, 2006) & Side Jobs [2010 October 26]
8 Proven Guilty [2006 May 2]
9 White Night [2007 April 3]
9.5(a) "It's My Birthday, Too" (short story) - Many Bloody Returns (September 4, 2007) & Side Jobs [2010 October 26]
9.5(b) "Heorot" (short story) - My Big Fat Supernatural Honeymoon (December 26, 2007) & Side Jobs [2010 October 26]
10 Small Favor [2008 April 1]
10.5(a) "Harry's Day Off" (short story) - Blood Lite (October 21, 2008) & Called "Day Off" in Side Jobs [2010 October 26]
10.5(b) "Backup" (novelette) - Side Jobs [2010 October 26]
10.5(c) "The Warrior" (short story) - Mean Streets (January 6, 2009) & Side Jobs [2010 October 26]
10.5(d) "Curses" (short story) - Naked City: Tales of Urban Fantasy [2011 July 5] & Brief Cases [2018 June 5]
10.5(e)"AAAA Wizardry" (short story) - Volume Two: Our World of The Dresden Files Roleplaying Game [2010 June 15] & Brief Cases [2018 June 5]
10.5(f)"Last Call" (short story) - Strange Brew (July 7, 2009) & Side Jobs [2010 October 26]
11 Turn Coat [2009 April 7]
11.5(a) "Love Hurts" - Songs of Love and Death (November 16, 2010) & Side Jobs [2010 October 26]
11.5(b) "Bigfoot on Campus" - Hex Appeal [2012 June 5]; Working for Bigfoot [2015 June 30] & Brief Case [2018 June 5]
11.5(c) "Even Hand" - Dark and Stormy Knights [2010 July 20] & Brief Case [2018 June 5]
12 Changes [2010 April 6]
12.25 - Side Jobs - a collection of short stories
12.5 "Aftermath" - Side Jobs [2010 October 26]
13 Ghost Story [2011 July 26]
13.5 "Bombshells" (short story) - Dangerous Women [2013 December 3]; Brief Cases [2018 June 5]
14 Cold Days [2012 November 27]
14.5 "Cold Case" (short story) - Brief Cases [2018 June 5]
15 Skin Game [2014 May 27]
15.25 - Brief Cases - a collection of short stories
15.5(a) "Jury Duty" (short story) - Brief Cases [2018 June 5]
15.5(b) "Day One" (short story) - Brief Cases [2018 June 5]
15.5(c) Zoo Day (Novella) - Brief Cases [2018 June 5]
16 Peace Talks [to be announced]
17 Mirror Mirror [to be announced]

***Bonus***
Here is a Dresden Files: Series Timeline found on Jim Butcher's site. Thank you, Alan, for pointing it out!!

Happy reading!

Can you please add in The Law, Little Things, and Monsters?

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by DuckieTigger

It doesn't say. Have not finished it yet, fell asleep reading part of it today. Definitely after Changes. My gut feeling so far is after Skin Game.

Does Monsters come before or after Jury Duty?

[JSWolf]

Does Christmas Eve fall before Little Things or after The Law or in between?

Does Mike fall before It's My Birthday Too or after Heorot or in between?

I'll have more when I have time to ask.

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Does Monsters come before or after Jury Duty?

I couldn't say right now. I have had it finished a while back, but cannot remember exactly if they depend on each other chronologically. Methinks that both are independent from each other, so order wouldn't matter. Usually if that's the case, I would fall back to publishing order.

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by Dazrin

The Cinder Spires one was part of the next novel but was cut, almost certainly at the publisher's direction. Rather than deleting it and it never getting published or waiting years for him to have enough of these ready to publish an anthology, he published it separately and independently.

Do you have a quote for that? I would say it can be flawlessly inserted without being weird in this location: (there is no spoiler in actual content)

Spoiler:

between preface and chapter one

[DuckieTigger]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Can you please add in The Law, Little Things, and Monsters?

Also 17 is now 18, 17 should be Battle Ground, and 17.5(a) Christmas Eve.