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Old 12-07-2014, 05:23 PM   #8236
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I don't either, but #44 is hilarious.
Note that Bjarne Sjoustrup designed the C++ language.

The original implementation was a translator that converted C++ to C, to be compiled by the cc compiler on the Unix systems where it originated. C++ compilers that compiled to native machine code came later.

(He's a Managing Director in the Technology department at Morgan Stanley these days, and a Visiting Professor in Computer Science at Columbia University, and a Distinguished Research Professor in Computer Science at Texas A&M University.)
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Old 12-07-2014, 05:39 PM   #8237
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From http://www.junauza.com/2010/12/top-5...-all-time.html

22. "Perl – The only language that looks the same before and after RSA encryption."
- Keith Bostic
Bostic has apparently never seen TECO, whose syntax strongly resembles dial-up modem line noise.

Code:
[1 J^P$L$$
 J <.-Z; .,(S,$ -D .)FX1 @F^B $K :L I $ G1 L>$$
sorts lines in a list.

(where ^B means ‘Control-B’ (ASCII 0000010) and $ is actually an alt or escape (ASCII 0011011) character)

One hilarious comparison of programming languages compared how they performed a task where the task was "Shoot yourself in the foot."

In Perl, you shot yourself in the foot, but no one else could figure out how you did it. Two weeks later, neither could you.
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:39 AM   #8238
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Old 12-08-2014, 09:33 PM   #8239
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At what age is it appropriate to tell my dog that he’s adopted?
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Old 12-08-2014, 09:53 PM   #8240
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In Perl, you shot yourself in the foot, but no one else could figure out how you did it. Two weeks later, neither could you.
I think you could say the same of APL (or at least APL/360 back in the mid 70's when I was in the habit of doing things in a single line of code; and BOY was it CODE!)
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Old 12-08-2014, 10:24 PM   #8241
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Only when he's old enough to start asking awkward questions.
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Old 12-08-2014, 10:25 PM   #8242
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I think you could say the same of APL (or at least APL/360 back in the mid 70's when I was in the habit of doing things in a single line of code; and BOY was it CODE!)
In APL, you can do that, and I think you can still say the same thing.

An old friend is an APL specialist. These days he develops in a sibling of APL called K. He says he can deliver complete applications in the time other developers take to estimate how long the job will take after getting the specs.

Of course, APL and variants are specialized languages, and not suited for many tasks. He mostly works in finance where mathematical operations performed on on arrays are common. A spreadsheet is the sort of thing you can use that sort of language for: http://nsl.com/papers/spreadsheet.htm

(He commented at one point about "Figuring out how to do it in 17 characters because another developer had used 20..." APL code is terse by intention.)
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Old 12-08-2014, 11:52 PM   #8243
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The fun we used to have in High School using APL on an IBM Selectric (and then eventually a micro-computer, the IBM 5100)

And yes... I am aware of K
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:29 AM   #8244
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One has to wait until at least it has begun to speak.
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:47 AM   #8245
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You really want to do so before he hears it from his friends on the street.


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Old 12-09-2014, 02:21 PM   #8246
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If you are over 30, I think you are mature enough to handle the conversation.
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:42 PM   #8247
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Every once in a while when I'm at the store someone will get into the check-out line behind me with a baby in the child seat. I look back and tell them, "Oh! Don't get one of those! They're cute, but they cost a fortune!"

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The fun we used to have in High School using APL on an IBM Selectric (and then eventually a micro-computer, the IBM 5100)
Well, there was an APL type ball for the Selectric that would let you type your programs. Actually running them required the 5100...

(I logged time on Selectrics back when, but did manage to miss the MTSC.)

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Old 12-09-2014, 11:30 PM   #8250
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Sigh... the 2741 TERMINAL was in effect a Selectric..... The 5100 came at a later time in high school.
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