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Old 07-20-2022, 06:44 PM   #796
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I'm not buying anything without a light sensor, looks like Kobo has given up on that.
All the light sensors I've seen on ereaders (all three of them ) have not been all that useful.

gforgiraffe39935's experience pretty much matches what I saw. A light sensor is pretty useless when you are endlessly overriding it. At least Kobo made that easy with the slide finger on left edge of screen to adjust brightness.
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Old 07-20-2022, 07:19 PM   #797
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Some of my Kindles had light sensors. I couldn't tell you which. Didn't work worth a hoot so I just manually set it and adjust on those rare times needed.
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I've never seen any Ambient light sensor that worked well. They are too small a light target.
I turn them off on TVs, monitors, tablets & phones.
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Recently came into possession of a barely-used Sage from someone looking to get rid of it.

Can anyone who runs KOReader on theirs weigh in on whether the button issue is evident there as well? In stock nickel, it was failing to register my button presses half the time until I discovered that I needed to really hit it dead-on to work. Now I'd say it's about 90% accurate (even though it forces me to hold it slightly higher than I'd like to make sure my thumb hits dead-center every time), although that last tenth still seems to miss on the first press. I'm curious if it's better on KOReader--I've never felt compelled to check it out, but if it fixes that irritation, I just might.

Also, any suggestions on a sleeve cover for the Sage instead of a case? I've currently got it in a sleeve for a 10" tablet, which is fine, but there's a bit of a gap at the top. I've thought about looking into ones like this Kindle Oasis sleeve, but since that was a 7" screen and the Sage is 8", I'm worried it might be a tight fit.
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Old 07-21-2022, 04:20 PM   #800
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Recently came into possession of a barely-used Sage from someone looking to get rid of it.



Also, any suggestions on a sleeve cover for the Sage instead of a case? I've currently got it in a sleeve for a 10" tablet, which is fine, but there's a bit of a gap at the top. I've thought about looking into ones like this Kindle Oasis sleeve, but since that was a 7" screen and the Sage is 8", I'm worried it might be a tight fit.
You won't beat a Forefront shell cover.
Very light, folds right. back for one-handed reading, sleeps the Sage when you close it and wakes it up when you open it.
I've had Forefront shell cases for my readers for years, never had a problem.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Forefront-C.../dp/B09SLS8SST
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c.f., https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...9&postcount=22

TL;DR: It's a hardware (-ish) issue, but you have the possibility of side-stepping the issue entirely by not enabling autostandby (the trade-off being it'll murder your battery life ;p).

(I can somewhat confirm from my own experience that firm button presses seem to alleviate the issue somewhat, but it probably has more to do with how this affects the timing of things and how that just happens to make things better ;p).

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Can anyone who runs KOReader on theirs weigh in on whether the button issue is evident there as well? In stock nickel, it was failing to register my button presses half the time until I discovered that I needed to really hit it dead-on to work. Now I'd say it's about 90% accurate (even though it forces me to hold it slightly higher than I'd like to make sure my thumb hits dead-center every time), although that last tenth still seems to miss on the first press. I'm curious if it's better on KOReader--I've never felt compelled to check it out, but if it fixes that irritation, I just might.
You press the top button to turn the page? Can you reverse the buttons? I did that on my Kindle and now can hold it lower in the natural position and properly turn pages. Good luck.
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Old 07-21-2022, 09:44 PM   #803
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You won't beat a Forefront shell cover.
Very light, folds right. back for one-handed reading, sleeps the Sage when you close it and wakes it up when you open it.
I've had Forefront shell cases for my readers for years, never had a problem.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Forefront-C.../dp/B09SLS8SST
Clicking that link takes me to the Amazon store I have access to, wherein I see

"Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock. "
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Old 07-22-2022, 03:13 AM   #804
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Clicking that link takes me to the Amazon store I have access to, wherein I see

"Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock. "
Oh dear - looks as though Forefront are UK only.

Other makes exist of the same type of 'shell' case though - Fintie do one in the US for example
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@Cactus Chef:

c.f., https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...9&postcount=22

TL;DR: It's a hardware (-ish) issue, but you have the possibility of side-stepping the issue entirely by not enabling autostandby (the trade-off being it'll murder your battery life ;p).

(I can somewhat confirm from my own experience that firm button presses seem to alleviate the issue somewhat, but it probably has more to do with how this affects the timing of things and how that just happens to make things better ;p).
Kernel is not hardware
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Old 07-22-2022, 10:40 AM   #806
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I'm not buying anything without a light sensor, looks like Kobo has given up on that.
I've used other light sensors and I don't like them. They never seen to get it right.
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You press the top button to turn the page? Can you reverse the buttons? I did that on my Kindle and now can hold it lower in the natural position and properly turn pages. Good luck.
Position doesn't matter, I've tried both and even rotating 180 degrees to switch hands.
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TL;DR: It's a hardware (-ish) issue, but you have the possibility of side-stepping the issue entirely by not enabling autostandby (the trade-off being it'll murder your battery life ;p).
Would this same issue result in "stuck" button presses, as it fails to detect a button up event? Because I have this happen not-infrequently -- turning the page results in it continuing to turn the page repeatedly -- and have been wondering if it's a defective device, or something like that.
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Would this same issue result in "stuck" button presses, as it fails to detect a button up event? Because I have this happen not-infrequently -- turning the page results in it continuing to turn the page repeatedly -- and have been wondering if it's a defective device, or something like that.
Probably not, as mine sometimes does it as well.
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Position doesn't matter, I've tried both and even rotating 180 degrees to switch hands.
Since the OP was using Nickel, perhaps one could try going to Settings => Reading settings and tapping on the Inverted button in the Button Controls section? That setting was there when I first got a Forma and is still there in the latest firmware on my Sage. Though the default does use the lower button to page forward and the upper button to page backwards.

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