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Old 09-04-2009, 05:45 AM   #7636
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Is there such a thing as a healthy dessert?
I'm sure there are such things... they're just.... highly unpopular
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Old 09-04-2009, 05:56 AM   #7637
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All sugars are bad, any one of them. If they say honey is good they're wrong. it's just not as worse. Glucids are the worst cause of health problems associated with foods. They put it everywhere... even in meat!

Deserts made of pure fruit are healthy.

And remember, people tend to abuse of things they like, that is not healthy.
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:03 AM   #7638
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All sugars are bad, any one of them [....]

Deserts made of pure fruit are healthy.
...because fruits don't have sugars in them? What kind of fruit is that, rocks?

Nothing wrong with sugars, it is overdoing it that is bad. I do agree that sugar gets chucked into nearly every processed food, which is idiotic.

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Old 09-04-2009, 06:27 AM   #7639
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Nothing wrong with sugars, it is overdoing it that is bad. I do agree that sugar gets chucked into nearly every processed food, which is idiotic.
As I understand it's often added to "compensate" for flavor lost through freezing or canning.
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:34 AM   #7640
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Oi! Leave the desserts alone! Let me have SOMETHING unhealthy, ok?

Sheesh... isn't it enough that wifey tries to make me eat healthier food. Now you are trying to take all the fun out of desserts as well!
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Old 09-04-2009, 06:45 AM   #7641
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Oi! Leave the desserts alone! Let me have SOMETHING unhealthy, ok? Sheesh... isn't it enough that wifey tries to make me eat healthier food. Now you are trying to take all the fun out of desserts as well!
I have no problems with sugars or "unhealthy" desserts; I absolutely love chocolate. I just have a problem with the portion size, which seems to have doubled or even tripled in the US from what it was not too long ago and it is going the same route in Europe lately. This is not just for desserts, this goes for EVERYTHING. Drinks, meals, snacks, the lot.

Check out these stories about portion size.

[1, 2, 3,4]

I have this "1960 vs 2000 portion difference" link somewhere, I just can't seem to find it. it was quite shocking. *goes off to rummage*
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:06 AM   #7642
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I have no problems with sugars or "unhealthy" desserts; I absolutely love chocolate. I just have a problem with the portion size, which seems to have doubled or even tripled in the US from what it was not too long ago and it is going the same route in Europe lately. This is not just for desserts, this goes for EVERYTHING. Drinks, meals, snacks, the lot.
I was relatively well-behaved 2 bowls of lentils, split peas and rice... 10 jellybeans and a few squares of dark choc Nom nom.

Frankly, what I find scary is that we in western rich countries spend so much time eating and get so little nutrition out of our food.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:21 AM   #7643
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Is there such a thing as a healthy dessert?

And no, fruitsalad doesnt count! Cause that you must drench in whipped cream!
Nah, fruitsalad must be eaten pure.

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Yogurt is supposed to be good for you. And even chocolate has some health benefits... all that sugar they tend to mix in, not so much.
Low-fat yoghurt with fresh fruit: yummie! Don't add any sugar though, that'll ruin the taste.

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All sugars are bad, any one of them. If they say honey is good they're wrong. it's just not as worse. Glucids are the worst cause of health problems associated with foods. They put it everywhere... even in meat!

Deserts made of pure fruit are healthy.

And remember, people tend to abuse of things they like, that is not healthy.
acidzebra already said it, what about fruitsugar? It's still sugar.

And sugar isn't bad. It's the amount of sugar that is consumed that is not good.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:29 AM   #7644
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acidzebra already said it, what about fruitsugar? It's still sugar.
It's kinda like comparing almond essence with almonds, or whey powder with whole milk. White sugar is so processed, and the molecule chain so much shorter (that right, people who've studied chem less than 15 years ago?) that it's in the same group (sugars) but quite a lot different in its nutritional effects.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:39 AM   #7646
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It's kinda like comparing almond essence with almonds, or whey powder with whole milk. White sugar is so processed, and the molecule chain so much shorter (that right, people who've studied chem less than 15 years ago?) that it's in the same group (sugars) but quite a lot different in its nutritional effects.
I don't quite agree and there is a lot of discussion about this in academic circles. Also disagree with the notion of "processed" (you say that like it is a bad word) when a better term is "purified" from a chemical perspective. From where I stand, little wrong with sucrose (table sugar), fructose, glucose, and then there is high-fructose corn syrup, a different beast altogether (which I think is currently popular in the US and increasingly so in the rest of the western world). Honey, a natural product, is actually a mixture of all the different sugars:

Typical honey analysis

* Fructose: 38.5%
* Glucose: 31.0%
* Sucrose: 1.0%
* Water: 17.0%
* Other sugars: 9.0% (maltose, melezitose)
* Ash: 0.17%
* Other: 3.38%

But hey, whatever floats your boat. I think sucrose is unfairly "criminalized"

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All sugars are bad, any one of them. If they say honey is good they're wrong. it's just not as worse. Glucids are the worst cause of health problems associated with foods. They put it everywhere... even in meat!

Deserts made of pure fruit are healthy.

And remember, people tend to abuse of things they like, that is not healthy.
Oh, just drink your beer!
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No thanks... I quit drinking beer. For some reason I don't like beer anymore. I do however want to go home and have a glass of wine or four, and maybe a whisky a bit later after dinner!

Yay! Friday!
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Is it? I can hardly keep track of the days anymore. It isn't *officially* Friday until I've seen 'Friday's Question of the Week'.

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