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Old 09-23-2010, 05:47 PM   #61
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Yeah but what happens when some kids don't have parents, or parents that are negligent? We need a failsafe to catch the lost ones. Were everybody grounded on solid scriptural values, we can pave the way for a better society, and a better world. Thats what Jesus was talking about when he stated that the Kingdom of God can be here.... right now on Earth.
Solid scriptural values like killing witches?

It never fails to amaze me how some christians try to claim everything good comes from their religion, and everything bad from every other outlook. And in the name of such beliefs, terrazoids is arguing that the state should set aside the first amendment and teach his specific religion.
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Old 09-23-2010, 05:56 PM   #62
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The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, while having existed in secrecy for hundreds of years, only recently came into the mainstream when this letter was published in May 2005.

With millions, if not thousands, of devout worshippers, the Church of the FSM is widely considered a legitimate religion, even by its opponents – mostly fundamentalist Christians, who have accepted that our God has larger balls than theirs.

Some claim that the church is purely a thought experiment, satire, illustrating that Intelligent Design is not science, but rather a pseudoscience manufactured by Christians to push Creationism into public schools. These people are mistaken. The Church of FSM is real, totally legit, and backed by hard science. Anything that comes across as humor or satire is purely coincidental.

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Solid scriptural values like killing witches?

It never fails to amaze me how some christians try to claim everything good comes from their religion, and everything bad from every other outlook. And in the name of such beliefs, terrazoids is arguing that the state should set aside the first amendment and teach his specific religion.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:03 PM   #64
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:41 PM   #65
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I think most religions have a few members who believe their way is the only right way, and is everything that is good. It isn't the religion that is bad, it's the few that take it to the extreme that make it seem bad. Christianity isn't the only one, though it gets bashed often.

Yes, there were the Crusades, and the witch hunts, but not every Christian followed along with them, just as not every Christian today feels like shooting everyone they even suspect is a Muslim. By the same token, Not every Muslim believes that Americans need to die, though a few have declared a jihad.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:48 PM   #66
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Oh yes, I'm a full supporter of the FSM, just didn't make the connection in the context.

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Old 09-23-2010, 06:53 PM   #67
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20 bucks says an ISP trace puts him posting from the same ISP as terrazoids...
We're thinking along the same lines. I've already reported that "member" as well as AlQaedainDallas as being bogus and suggesting that their ISP be checked.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:58 PM   #68
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:00 PM   #69
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I think most religions have a few members who believe their way is the only right way, and is everything that is good. It isn't the religion that is bad, it's the few that take it to the extreme that make it seem bad. Christianity isn't the only one, though it gets bashed often.

Yes, there were the Crusades, and the witch hunts, but not every Christian followed along with them, just as not every Christian today feels like shooting everyone they even suspect is a Muslim. By the same token, Not every Muslim believes that Americans need to die, though a few have declared a jihad.
Well said. Fanaticism is the problem, not theological speculations or personal beliefs.
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We're thinking along the same lines. I've already reported that "member" as well as AlQaedainDallas as being bogus and suggesting that their ISP be checked.
I was just about to PM you (so as not to make a speculation with at least a small possibility of being wrong in public) and predict that the next to disappear would be GrimRedBones-- but I just looked and it has already happened...
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:03 PM   #71
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Yeah but to favor something that the majority of people don't believe is not good. The constitution also protects the culture of the nation. So if theres too much Islam coming out of these books.... got to censor it.
No! Freedom of belief and expression is not limited by majority rule. The First Amendment protects the minority from the majority. The popular view doesn't need protection.
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I was just about to PM you (so as not to make a speculation with at least a small possibility of being wrong in public) and predict that the next to disappear would be GrimRedBones-- but I just looked and it has already happened...
boy we got a real winner when the original showed up eh? wonder what's next?
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You're welcome. It's my hope that everyone here can feel free to discuss weighty issues without personal attacks or ridicule whether they be Christian, Muslim, agnostic, atheist, or anything else. R-E-S-P-E-C-T.
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I think most religions have a few members who believe their way is the only right way, and is everything that is good. It isn't the religion that is bad, it's the few that take it to the extreme that make it seem bad. Christianity isn't the only one, though it gets bashed often.

Yes, there were the Crusades, and the witch hunts, but not every Christian followed along with them, just as not every Christian today feels like shooting everyone they even suspect is a Muslim. By the same token, Not every Muslim believes that Americans need to die, though a few have declared a jihad.
Yes. So true in many aspects of our lives, not just religion.

I see quite a few bumper stickers around here like this:



Which I (and as so well said above) many others agree with. The issues come (whether in religion or other areas) when views start getting pushed upon others.
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boy we got a real winner when the original showed up eh? wonder what's next?
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