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To answer the earlier question as to why Nook didn't just go pure LCD, it is because B&N also knows that eInk is easier on the eyes than LCD. Obviously, they could've done it cheaper with just LCD. Apple has got you guys thinking that LCD is as good for mass reading as eInk simply because their device is so elegant. eBook reading is a side show for the iPad. I agree, it is a super-cool device, but lets not kid ourselves that it is equal to an eInk reader for long-term reading comfort. If this hasn't already been proven, it will be soon. Then all your eInk nay-sayers will change your tune to: "But my xxx also does yyyy!" |
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My workplace is trying to go paperless. We all have nice LCD screens, though some are only 17". I feel guilty when I need to print things, because of the environmental impact. (our paper is only 30% recycled content) But it just makes things so much easier to read, I'm doing it more and more.
I wish they'd make an eInk monitor just for those of us who work with documents a lot. |
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Photons are photons are photons, to put it in internet language. When light is reflected from an opaque body, some of its energy heats the body and some is reflected: the reflected part is the light that your eyes catch. If you diminish the intensity of the light of a light source, you can reach the same intensity of light "usually reflected" by opaque objects: in case of a Samsung LCD computer monitor, it means to reduce its brightness to 21% and raise its contrast to maximum (remember, contrast is not brightness). But yeah, the photons remain photons. Last edited by Lo Zeno; 08-26-2010 at 10:03 AM. Reason: polished the grammar |
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![]() (Sorry, I couldn't resist!) But seriously, don't expect electronics companies to make "extensive researches" on everything. I work in one (as an antenna engineer, that's why I'm so bitter towards that particular Apple error ![]() Intel tells me that its microchips work in temperatures that range from -X° to +Y° ---> I trust them, I don't make expensive tests on it. ParaWave tells me that the CTS strip antenna has a very high gain but uses half of the power of other antennas, and I discover that a competing company "already uses" these very antennas ---> I make one test just to check that the power used by that antenna is indeed inferior (doesn't matter if it actually is half), and quickly adopt it, because "my competitor already does". Seriously, it works this way. So I can easily imagine Sony saying "oh! oh! Amazon already uses e-ink, we must adopt it too!" (I actually don't know who of the two adopted e-ink first, it's just an example). |
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Personally, I think they have done the studies and research, as you noted. And the incredible battery life, sunlight readability, and visual acuity to paper is probably what drove them to invest in this new technology-all of which they do tout in their ads. That the "scientific proof" about eyestrain isn't mentioned in their ads tells me something as well. But kudos for bringing up both the "you'll wise up someday" AND the "Apple's got you thinkin" chestnuts. Those never gets old ![]() Last edited by kjk; 08-26-2010 at 11:03 AM. |
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I would say that a LCD emits a liiiitle light if it has its brightness reduced PLUS the light that is reflected coming from ambient conditions, never the same as a eink display. The amount of photons will never be the same, to be exact. Last edited by Salgueiros; 08-26-2010 at 02:02 PM. |
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As for the discussion in general, I think it is pointless. I find it hard to believe anyone that says that reading in a LCD screen is exactly the same as reading in a eink display. Sorry, but that is a thing i cannot believe.
I have the feeling that people that say that they read in LCD screens without problem, either don't read a lot, or don't read the same way one reads a real paper book. They were close to the truth when they called Eink "electronic paper", and that makes a huge difference. |
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Fair enough; those are some good points.
In the Wall Street Journal article from yesterday, they said that paper is read significantly faster, followed by iPad, followed closely by Kindle. (with the difference between iPad and Kindle not being statistically relevant) That is reading speed. Not sure if that also equates to ease of reading. |
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I'm going to post a poll here and see what the majority feeling on this is. Of course that will not make it a fact, but it will be interesting to know.
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In any case, I'll be very interested in buying another e-Ink device if they ever manage to get the refresh rate up high enough so I can just flip through the pages like I can on an LCD, and when they get the dpi up into the 300 dpi range on a 9+ inch screen. Until the technology matures to those levels, though, there is nothing about e-Ink that is compelling enough to get me to carry multiple technogadgets around. |
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Speaking for myself, I've never argued that LCD reading is "exactly the same" as eInk reading. I personally love the static display of eInk. But the screen flash at every page turn is a distraction for me.
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