Advice for the Summer - Page 5

Ea · 07-31-2010, 11:52 AM

Where did you have that "on foot" from?

beppe · 07-31-2010, 01:04 PM

My head.
Achilles is called Pelides as he is the son of Peleus. Pè in Italian Piè in French is a poetic licence for foot.A nice interpretation of a very ancient story. horse tamer I like it more then breaker of horses.

Achilles was the son of the nymph Thetis and Peleus, the king of the Myrmidons. Relating him to foot is also part of his destiny. He was invulnerable except for his heel and there he was hit by an arrow from the starter of all the trouble, the thief of wifes Parides.

People are divided in two. Who admires Achilles and who admires Hector. They behave differently if you want to hit them for a bit of cash or to steal a kiss.

Ea · 07-31-2010, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beppe

My head.
Achilles is called Pelides as he is the son of Peleus. Pè in Italian Piè in French is a poetic licence for foot.A nice interpretation of a very ancient story. horse tamer I like it more then breaker of horses.

I was thinking it might be something like that. "Peregrine" means wanderer in latin (english?)
(foot is pied in french btw)

However, I'm not sure it matches up to 'Peleus' - I wonder what the etymology is of the name?* - and the meter (I think it's called) of the verse, seems off, isn't it supposed to be six beats per line? (I don't know the right terminology)

*my greek-english dictionary isn't very comprehensive - it offered up pelos (πηλος) = mud, clay - (Peleid: Πηληϊάδεω )

beppe · 07-31-2010, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ea

I was thinking it might be something like that. "Peregrine" means wanderer in latin (english?)
(foot is pied in french btw)

However, I'm not sure it matches up to 'Peleus' - I wonder what the etymology is of the name?* - and the meter (I think it's called) of the verse, seems off, isn't it supposed to be six beats per line? (I don't know the right terminology)

*my greek-english dictionary isn't very comprehensive - it offered up pelos (πηλος) = mud, clay - (Peleid: Πηληϊάδεω )

It's a name, not necessarily a concrete name, like Leo or Petrus. In school we all made jokes about the Pelìde Achille.

It's in exameters. bum bim bim bum bim bim. But that's the original in Greek. Rendition vary.

It was chanted in a way, accompanied by percussionists. With dancers also. And the guys and their queenly ladies, reclining and drinking horrible concoctions of resinous wine mixed with water and with grated goat cheese in it. In music it would be a 6/8. More like a pavana. Stately An Epic style.

beppe · 07-31-2010, 04:54 PM

Plus, if somebody wants to buy The wars of Tucidites or the Iliades to read under a fig tree during this Summer, like I am doing with Stefano Dedalo, either he does not need this trick, or if he does he will throw the books to the stinging nettles after reading 5 words and get souled* as fast as possible.

* drunk

Ea · 07-31-2010, 04:57 PM

As far as I know the "Peleïd" is a sort of patronymic, it states that Achilleus is of Peleus' family. And Peleus is Achilleus' father.

Hexameter - hexametron. The two danish translations I know both respect this in the translation.

beppe · 07-31-2010, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ea

As far as I know the "Peleïd" is a sort of patronymic, it states that Achilleus is of Peleus' family. And Peleus is Achilleus' father.

Hexameter - hexametron. The two danish translations I know both respect this in the translation.

Absolutely. Very serious people the Danes. As it will be quite apparent from the post that I am assembling. What a pleasure to have you live on this thread, Lady Ea. May I be of service? Would you seat on this comfortable chaise long and have a little sip of Lemoncello, or some other cordial?

What a wonderful umbrella.

Ea · 07-31-2010, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beppe

Absolutely. Very serious people the Danes. As it will be quite apparent from the post that I am assembling. What a pleasure to have you live on this thread, Lady Ea. May I be of service? Would you seat on this comfortable chaise long and have a little sip of Lemoncello, or some other cordial?

What a wonderful umbrella.

Lemoncello would be lovely

And of course, if it's worth one's consideration and time, it's worth taking seriously.

(right now I'm also following a band of vikings down a cave - one needs the refreshment)

beppe · 07-31-2010, 05:18 PM

destroied my post. it would have spoiled it

Ea · 07-31-2010, 05:22 PM

Then I better delete this as well.

beppe · 07-31-2010, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ea

Where did you have that "on foot" from?

I must admit you got me red handed there.

The foot is just an excuse for the foolishness of the explanation, that when I wrote it seemed fine.

The end justifies the means. Do not forget that I have a Catholic upbringing. Will you ever forgive me, oh red umbrellaed beauty?

beppe · 07-31-2010, 06:12 PM

It's time for choosing the best post for this ambitious thread (up to now). Among the many quality posts, there are two (2) that stand out. They are not comparable in scope so I solved the problem of choosing one by choosing both but in different sections. Smart eh? That's why I am the thread leader.

Section on Case Studies

vivaldirules wins first prize (a bonanza of heavy caliber Karma: who believes this will believe anything) for his genial post in which, very brilliantly in the words of an expert, he examine Beckett, Hesse, Shakespeare, Clark and Maugham, with real and amazing results. Outstanding.

Section on Advancement of Knowledge: Techniques and Methods

Ea wins first prize (a bonanza of heavy caliber Karma: oh yes, believers) for her daring and accurate study. From the original post
"To really determine whether it works or not, I think we would need a large sample of books. Preferably chosen by blindfolded people to make the selection random. It wouldn't do to choose only "good books" or "trash". Then, a scientifically chosen(*) number of people will try to create a sentence from the beginning and end of each book. If at least 50% of these sentences make sense to a randomly selected MR overlord (a.k.a. moderator) the book will be deemed "good" and compliant to the hypothetical principle.

*someone with a science degree selects a random number between 1 and 9"

Some comments are in order on this brilliant proposal
blindfolded The humanitarian quality is reflected in this choice. The proponent prefers incurring in heavier expensse for the heavy cloth to be cut and stitched instead of what her ancestors (or mine for that matter), would had done without a glitch. It is much cheaper, faster and easy to blind the choosers with even simple implements (the point of a knife for example or even a stick of wood). This present choice will be appreciated by the image controllers of the Administration.
scientifically chosen When a methodological step is scientific it has to be scientific in all of its part, or the scientific "continuity" is lost. These are traps that can be avoided only by an approach made of careful design and scientific supervision of the experiment. It does not matter if the budget plummets. This is a problem of the Administrators and of the fund risers. Excellent. It is with this passage that the proposal wins.
MR overlord One starts to doubt his eyes. Is she serious or ... She is very serious: she explains that they are the moderators.

Both posts in the category best of the bestest.

Disclaimer:All misspelling errors in this post are due to the bombardment of video clips in the ionosphere (it wil reach its peak the 9th of August)

Ea · 08-01-2010, 04:53 AM

Thanks for the karma, beppe

Quote:

Originally Posted by beppe

vivaldirules wins first prize (a bonanza of heavy caliber Karma: who believes this will believe anything) for his genial post in which, very brilliantly in the words of an expert, he examine Beckett, Hesse, Shakespeare, Clark and Maugham, with real and amazing results. Outstanding.

This was excellent examples. Very much deserved.

Disclaimer:All misspelling errors in this post are due to the bombardment of video clips in the ionosphere (it wil reach its peak the 9th of August)
I saw that!!

vivaldirules · 08-01-2010, 08:50 AM

Hey, I didn't write them. I just read them. But it's curious how well this works on some novels - as if it was intentional.

beppe · 08-01-2010, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivaldirules

Hey, I didn't write them. I just read them. But it's curious how well this works on some novels - as if it was intentional.

It is my impression also. In the case of Dante, it is more of an impression of course.

If JSB and his chums were capable of such feasts of interweaving with voices, themes, and cadenza, why not imagine literaly artisans of that caliber to design and write (type) similar embroideries.

I might be able to reach the journalist/writer that started this funny game and through him his friend and know more. Maybe he is a swell guy. Who knows, these intellectuals can be a surprise.

07-31-2010, 04:57 PM	#66
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	As far as I know the "Peleïd" is a sort of patronymic, it states that Achilleus is of Peleus' family. And Peleus is Achilleus' father. Hexameter - hexametron. The two danish translations I know both respect this in the translation. Last edited by Ea; 07-31-2010 at 05:00 PM.

07-31-2010, 05:18 PM	#69
beppe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,161 Karma: 81026524 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Italy Device: Kindle3, Ipod4, IPad2	destroied my post. it would have spoiled it Last edited by beppe; 07-31-2010 at 05:25 PM.

07-31-2010, 05:22 PM	#70
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	Then I better delete this as well. Last edited by Ea; 08-01-2010 at 04:44 AM.

07-31-2010, 06:12 PM	#72
beppe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,161 Karma: 81026524 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Italy Device: Kindle3, Ipod4, IPad2	It's time for choosing the best post for this ambitious thread (up to now). Among the many quality posts, there are two (2) that stand out. They are not comparable in scope so I solved the problem of choosing one by choosing both but in different sections. Smart eh? That's why I am the thread leader. Section on *Case Studies* vivaldirules wins first prize (a bonanza of heavy caliber Karma: who believes this will believe anything) for his genial post in which, very brilliantly in the words of an expert, he examine Beckett, Hesse, Shakespeare, Clark and Maugham, with real and amazing results. Outstanding. Section on *Advancement of Knowledge: Techniques and Methods* Ea wins first prize (a bonanza of heavy caliber Karma: oh yes, believers) for her daring and accurate study. From the original post "To really determine whether it works or not, I think we would need a large sample of books. Preferably chosen by blindfolded people to make the selection random. It wouldn't do to choose only "good books" or "trash". Then, a scientifically chosen() number of people will try to create a sentence from the beginning and end of each book. If at least 50% of these sentences make sense to a randomly selected MR overlord* (a.k.a. moderator) the book will be deemed "good" and compliant to the hypothetical principle. someone with a science degree selects a random number between 1 and 9" Some comments are in order on this brilliant proposal blindfolded* The humanitarian quality is reflected in this choice. The proponent prefers incurring in heavier expensse for the heavy cloth to be cut and stitched instead of what her ancestors (or mine for that matter), would had done without a glitch. It is much cheaper, faster and easy to blind the choosers with even simple implements (the point of a knife for example or even a stick of wood). This present choice will be appreciated by the image controllers of the Administration. scientifically chosen When a methodological step is scientific it has to be scientific in all of its part, or the scientific "continuity" is lost. These are traps that can be avoided only by an approach made of careful design and scientific supervision of the experiment. It does not matter if the budget plummets. This is a problem of the Administrators and of the fund risers. Excellent. It is with this passage that the proposal wins. MR overlord One starts to doubt his eyes. Is she serious or ... She is very serious: she explains that they are the moderators. Both posts in the category best of the bestest. Disclaimer:All misspelling errors in this post are due to the bombardment of video clips in the ionosphere (it wil reach its peak the 9th of August) Last edited by beppe; 08-01-2010 at 04:14 AM. Reason: setting things right

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Summer Reading	leebase	Reading Recommendations	5	06-10-2010 01:37 PM
Summer in your City	ravenne	Lounge	29	07-07-2009 02:21 PM
Summer Reads?	TadW	Reading Recommendations	2	07-27-2007 11:37 AM
Must-have Books for this Summer?	Colin Dunstan	Reading Recommendations	10	04-29-2006 11:05 AM
This is where I will spend my summer :)	Alexander Turcic	Lounge	9	07-07-2003 10:47 AM

07-31-2010, 11:52 AM	#61
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	Where did you have that "on foot" from?

07-31-2010, 01:04 PM	#62
beppe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,161 Karma: 81026524 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Italy Device: Kindle3, Ipod4, IPad2	My head. Achilles is called Pelides as he is the son of Peleus. Pè in Italian Piè in French is a poetic licence for foot.A nice interpretation of a very ancient story. horse tamer I like it more then breaker of horses. Achilles was the son of the nymph Thetis and Peleus, the king of the Myrmidons. Relating him to foot is also part of his destiny. He was invulnerable except for his heel and there he was hit by an arrow from the starter of all the trouble, the thief of wifes Parides. People are divided in two. Who admires Achilles and who admires Hector. They behave differently if you want to hit them for a bit of cash or to steal a kiss.

07-31-2010, 04:54 PM	#65
beppe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,161 Karma: 81026524 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Italy Device: Kindle3, Ipod4, IPad2	Plus, if somebody wants to buy The wars of Tucidites or the Iliades to read under a fig tree during this Summer, like I am doing with Stefano Dedalo, either he does not need this trick, or if he does he will throw the books to the stinging nettles after reading 5 words and get souled* as fast as possible. * drunk

08-01-2010, 08:50 AM	#74
vivaldirules When's Doughnut Day? Posts: 10,059 Karma: 13675475 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, TX, US Device: Sony PRS-505, iPad	Hey, I didn't write them. I just read them. But it's curious how well this works on some novels - as if it was intentional.

Advert

Advert