Arizonan restrictive law backfires

[Iphinome]

Originally Posted by clarknova

On the plus side, most of the cops there are unarmed and can't shoot you 41 times for reaching for your wallet.

Don't taze me bro.

[happy_terd]

Originally Posted by happy_terd

Maybe us Americans could start up a charity called "send an illegal to the UK."

I am sure at least a few hundred thousand of us would donate towards that boat ride.

Originally Posted by clarknova

The UK has immigration problems of its own, as do many countries.

If they do not take our illegals that want to go over there on our free boats then they are as racist as the arizonians are.

[recluse]

I'm sure that the members of this forum can discuss a perfectly rational and necessary law in Arizona without sinking to the level of playing the Racism card.

If you think your house has elephants, you don't check the cat for a trunk.

[happy_terd]

Originally Posted by recluse

I'm sure that the members of this forum can discuss a perfectly rational and necessary law in Arizona without sinking to the level of playing the Racism card.

Well considering the initial post is titled "racist anti-immigration Arizona law backfires" I seriously doubt it.

[SpiderMatt]

Has anyone else noticed that this video is over two years old and thus not at all related to the latest immigration reform bill in Arizona that has caused so much controversy?

[clarknova]

Originally Posted by recluse

I'm sure that the members of this forum can discuss a perfectly rational and necessary law in Arizona without sinking to the level of playing the Racism card.

If you think your house has elephants, you don't check the cat for a trunk.

Wow. Just when we had gotten this thread mostly off the political debate (which will never change anyone's mind) and onto legal discussions, you go and pull it right back down again.

Since you brought us back here, I'd like to note your reference to the "race card" phrase that's often used by bigots some people to suggest that it's a logical fallacy for anyone to point out instances of racism, since there's obviously no such thing as bigotry anymore, and there possibly never was. Well done, sir. You just won the internet, and everyone who disagreed with you now suddenly agrees!

Isn't there a Jeff Foxworthy joke about people who end their arguments with lame analogies? Something about how to tell if you're sun burnt or something?

[happy_terd]

Originally Posted by SpiderMatt

Has anyone else noticed that this video is over two years old and thus not at all related to the latest immigration reform bill in Arizona that has caused so much controversy?

that does not matter.

This is the same thread with the same people with the same opinions with the same arguments with the same blah blah fn blah.

We just keep resurrecting the same boring ass thread under a different title is all. Next week this thread will be back with a brand new title.

[SpiderMatt]

Originally Posted by happy_terd

that does not matter.

This is the same thread with the same people with the same opinions with the same arguments with the same blah blah fn blah.

We just keep resurrecting the same boring ass thread under a different title is all. Next week this thread will be back with a brand new title.

Just seems like some people, even people on YouTube, are commenting as if this is referring to the latest immigration reform law. Obviously, we don't yet know what the effect of the new law will be on labor since it hasn't gone into effect. Just thought that was worth pointing out. I'm gonna go find some ebook topics to comment on, now.

[kindlekitten]

would anyone like to know what my legally nationalized Mexican American Friends have to say on this whole deal?

[recluse]

I believe I was responding to the post before mine, clarknova.
I expect an apology for the extremely nasty tone and insinuation in your response.

Personal attacks of this nature will not be tolerated.

[LCF]

Being a (legal and hopefully temporary) emigrant in Germany I can only say that Arizona's demands from the emigrants (fingerprints, etc.) are a bit overrated for my taste. Saying it otherwise, there are much better places to emigrate, then Arizona (like Germany ). Perhaps there is a reason for such drastic control measures, but at least for me they are just too much. I'll already feel treated like a criminal on the border, when they take my fingerprints (or whenever they take them).

And an opinion based on the video and zero background - before applying such law, which obviously will have major consequences for the local business, you just think twice. You simply can't find local people to work for the money an emigrant would work, especially if there are physically not enough people to cover the void...

And because I feel really in peace today (sunny warm weather, me lying on the green grass and pretending to learn while actually waiting for the football to begin) - please stop personal grumblings. You're all nice people with different opinions, and its fine so!

(I haven't read the topic, I have no idea who's "right" and who is "wrong"... and I don't care. I only want to maintain my good spirit while reading MobileRead, and personal fights just don't help. Thanks for reading, and if you still feel grumpy - you could yell at me - I won't care. Just do it in PMs or on my wall, not in some thread.)

[Nate the great]

Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

No, again, they can take you down the police station, and identify you, if you fail to provide them with ID. They have to *immediately* release you on verifying your identity.

Thanks for the UK-bashing, though.

Can you leave before they identify you?

If the answer is no, then they can detain you.

[Logseman]

Originally Posted by happy_terd

Well considering the initial post is titled "racist anti-immigration Arizona law backfires" I seriously doubt it.

Unless my eyes fool me, the title says "Arizonan restrictive law backfires". Could somebody confirm the title of my post?

[happy_terd]

Youtube title, goofy.

Not taking a jab at you buddy. Just stating that with a title like that it makes a few of us pick sides before we even watch the video.

[Nate the great]

Originally Posted by Logseman

Unless my eyes fool me, the title says "Arizonan restrictive law backfires". Could somebody confirm the title of my post?

That is what your thread says, yes. Let me be the first to say thank you for not using an inflammatory title.