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I and others posted legitimate responses and because they didn't fit your narrow definition of alternate history you get all huffy? With that kind of attitude exhibited by some here it's just as well that the thread die (or be closed). And the humorous "political" suggestion is actually very appropriate in that there is much revisionist history taking place these days....what is alternative history if not different beliefs/opinions of what actually took place? Last edited by kennyc; 05-27-2010 at 06:56 PM. |
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Nowhere in this thread do any of us talk about "the revisionist history thats taking place these days". Thats only you. We are talking about Alternate History fictional books. As well, Alternate and Revisionist are two very different things. And while to some the bible could fit that description the only ones that would bring something like that up is someone that has an agenda or an axe to grind. Or someone that just wants to piss others off. So if thats all you want to do create your own thread. You can play like you aren't getting it. But you know exactly what kind of Alternate History that this thread was created to discuss. Again if you want to discuss "current revisionist history" or even the bible as "fictional religion", go create a thread for it. And quit jacking the thread. Last edited by Guns4Hire; 05-27-2010 at 08:33 PM. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_history
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Any good Alternate History authors? The opening post says: "I've read most of the biggies, Turtledove, Conroy, SM Sterling, but I'm looking for some new authors. Any suggestions? " I'm sorry you don't understand. I have no agenda whatsoever other than my offering and opinions. And certainly revisionist history is at the core of alternate history. Please continue to discuss the topic, but please stop attacking others for offering to join in and make suggestions. This sort of behavior and exclusionary attitude is why the thread has died, or it has simply run its course. That happens you know. |
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I'm done. Obviously you want a different type of topic to take place here, other than AH. Or you just want to annoy people. Congratulations. |
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‘Who controls the past,’ ran the Party slogan,
‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’ George Orwell, 1984, chapter 3 |
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Thought of a few more.
Peter Tsouras wrote a few about WWII- "Hitler Triumphant" and "Rising Sun Victorious." I thought they were a little dry, but interesting. If you like short stories, Turtledove and Martin Greenburg edited "The Best Alternate History Stories of the 20TH Century." Great mix of stuff in that. JFK, WWII, Abe Lincoln as a communist(what is Turtledove's fixation on that, anyways?). |
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The Return of William Proxmire by Larry Niven (its a short story).
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You have publication details? Never mind, I found linkage here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ret...lliam_Proxmire |
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I think that one of the most imaginative alternate history (+ time travel) plots using the Nazi theme was "The Proteus Operation" by James Hogan. The plot involves a timeline in which the world progresses peacefully and prosperously after World War I for several centuries. A group from the future of this timeline decides that history should have gone in a different direction. They go back in time to the 1920's and create disruption and disturbances and raise an obscure Austrian artist to power. Within 50 years, the Nazis have near total world domination and America is on the verge of falling. The American government sends a small group back in time to 1939 to try to stop the Nazis. (How they attained time travel technology is explained later). The group becomes marooned but attempts to complete the mission anyway. Among other things, they persuade Roosevelt and convince a failed British politician named Churchill to go back into government service. then history gets changed again.
An alternate history plot with a religious element is Mysterium, by Robert Charles Wilson. In this novel an accident in a government research facility throws a small Michigan town into a world where their part of North America is controlled by French speaking Gnostics. Their version of Gnostic Christianity in this world is particularly brutal and treats the hapless Michigan transplants as something malevolent that must be expunged. Stephen Barnes wrote a series of novels in which an element of the plot was that when phone systems began using quantum technology, people would slip back and forth between timelines every time they used the phone. The result was increasing disputes about the facts of history. Sometimes I wonder if I’ve fallen into that kind of timeline recently. Last edited by dugong; 05-29-2010 at 11:56 PM. |
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Great suggestions! I'm going to look these up!
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Don't know if these might be of interest - they're essays, rather than fiction - but Robert Cowley has pulled together a series of essays by historians in three books:
What If? More What If? and What If? America which consider what might have happened if things had gone differently at certain points in history. The only one I've actually laid hands on is the first (in my local Waterstones), and it did look very intriguing. |
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Newt Gingrich and William Forstchen wrote two alternate history series. One is based on the Civil War and the other on the Pacific War.
Here is a review of Gettysburg, the first book in the Civil War series, which I think is the better series. - link |
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