BIBLE for Sony Reader

[mheflin]

Originally Posted by EatingPie

Does the NASB in LIT format have paragraphs? The few electronic NIV Bibles I've seen have line-breaks at each verse. Very annoying, and astoundingly unreadable on the Reader. Also, does CLIT work on your NASB, and where did you get it??

The post #34 bible is pretty good. It has a main TOC page listing all the books. These link to a TOC page for the specific book, and there you select which chapter you want. It has paragraphs, and super-scripted verse numbers. The biggest problem is that it lacks a header to tell you what book you're on (or what chapter, for that matter) so it's easy to get lost.

I developed my program pielrf with the target of converting a Bible. It's feature-complete for regular books (version 1.2, soon to be posted and officially announced) but needs one more addition for it to work on a Bible (a <subchapter> tag). I may break off a totally different version to do this.

-Pie

The text appears to break return on each verse but not an extra space. There are sections (with headers inserted). Here is an example:

The Flight to Egypt

13 Now when they had gone, behold, an angel of the Lord *appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, "Get up! Take the Child and His mother and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you; for Herod is going to search for the Child to destroy Him."
14 So Joseph got up and took the Child and His mother while it was still night, and left for Egypt.
15 He remained there until the death of Herod. This was to fulfill what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: "OUT OF EGYPT I CALLED MY SON."

Herod Slaughters Babies

16 Then when Herod saw that he had been tricked by the magi, he became very enraged, and sent and slew all the male children who were in Bethlehem and all its vicinity, from two years old and under, according to

I purchased it at http://www.ebookmall.com/ebook/126934-ebook.htm for $9.99.

I tried CLIT and it did not work for me --- could be user error. I also tried ABC Amber LIT Converter.

I look forward to seeing your next version. Thanks for the help.

[mheflin]

You just sent an message to me--but my pop up blocker did away with it. Would you try again.

[NatCh]

You can get to your messages by clicking on the "Control Panel" link toward the top of the page (in the bar right under the MobileRead graphic), mheflin. There's a "Private Messages" section in the left hand column of the control panel.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by mheflin

The text appears to break return on each verse but not an extra space. There are sections (with headers inserted). Here is an example:

The Flight to Egypt

13 Now when they had gone, behold, an angel of the Lord *appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, "Get up! Take the Child and His mother and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you; for Herod is going to search for the Child to destroy Him."
14 So Joseph got up and took the Child and His mother while it was still night, and left for Egypt.
15 He remained there until the death of Herod. This was to fulfill what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: "OUT OF EGYPT I CALLED MY SON."

Herod Slaughters Babies

16 Then when Herod saw that he had been tricked by the magi, he became very enraged, and sent and slew all the male children who were in Bethlehem and all its vicinity, from two years old and under, according to

I purchased it at http://www.ebookmall.com/ebook/126934-ebook.htm for $9.99.

I tried CLIT and it did not work for me --- could be user error. I also tried ABC Amber LIT Converter.

I look forward to seeing your next version. Thanks for the help.

When you used CLIT, did you first run ReaderKeyRecoveryTool.exe? That gets the key needed for CLIT to remove the DRM. Aftert hat, CLIT can remove the DRM.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by mheflin

You just sent an message to me--but my pop up blocker did away with it. Would you try again.

That "pop-up" is just a notification that you have a message. As Nat say, you can read your messages at any time from the "User Control Panel". If you look at the links in the very top right corner of any page of this site (where it says "FrontPage", "Gallery", etc) you'll probably find there's a new link appeared saying "1 unread message" or something similar. You can also click that to read the message.

[mheflin]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

When you used CLIT, did you first run ReaderKeyRecoveryTool.exe? That gets the key needed for CLIT to remove the DRM. Aftert hat, CLIT can remove the DRM.

I don't believe I did run the ReaderKeyRecoveryTool.exe.

[EatingPie]

Unfortunately, the NASB mheflin has is broken at verses, not at paragraphs. Is there an NASB or NIV with actual paragraphs?

My tool, pielrf (Mac OS X version done, just working on simplified python installation) isn't quite ready to attack a Bible... As I said, I'll probably fork off a Bible version separately. And I'm not sure what to do about paragraph headings ("The Flight to Egypt")... so, we'll see.

-Pie

[NatCh]

Could you run it through a Word macro to re-paragraphicate it, perhaps?

[EatingPie]

Well, the problem is, there's no indication of paragraphs at all, at least from the given example.

The header could be used (any line not starting with a verse number) to delineate a section, but a section is not the same as a paragraph. Like if we look at the Beatitudes, the section would be titled "The Beatitudes" and every paragraph would (likely) begin with a "Blessed are the so and so." Some of these Blessed-ares span several verses, but there's no indication where the paragraph ends... so you'd end up with "The Beatitudes" and one HUGE paragraph after that.

-Pie

[NatCh]

Ah, I was thinking more in terms of just taking out paragraphs after each verse ... that is just a bit more complex than I was imagining.

[HarryT]

Would it take that long to put in the paragraph breaks manually?

The NT, if you were to do that separately, is not a particularly long book. It would be no more work to manually "tidy it up" than I've done in manually reformatting some of the books I've done - you could probably do it in a few hours. Just do a quick visual scan of each page of a printed version and add a paragraph break where needed.

The OT would be a much bigger challenge, I agree, but again "do-able", especially if several people were to tackle the job.

[NatCh]

The unfortunate thing there is that the NASB translation is still under copyright, so we can't really share our work.

[EatingPie]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Would it take that long to put in the paragraph breaks manually?

The NT, if you were to do that separately, is not a particularly long book...

Not a particularly long book... in relation to the whole Bible! But in relation to the majority of books published today? I'd call it a very long book. Especially if was charged with re-paragraphing the darned thing!

The solution is simple, NASB/NIV need to release electronic versions with paragraphs. Their print versions have them. I'm not sure why they think people prefer the e-book version to NOT have them. E-Books are still for PEOPLE to read, not COMPUTERS, after all!

The absolute worse Bible I've ever seen in this regard is Gutenberg's "New EText of Bible" KJV 1.3... download for a laugh, becuase it sure as heck ain't good for anything else! (Unless you're a computer.)

http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext92/bible13.txt

Once again, the ebible.org version does have the paragraphs in the LRF version. That's one of its major strengths.

-Pie

[dhbailey]

I've gone to that site a couple of times and can find no link for an LRF version of the bible on their web-site.

Could you please post a link to a specific page?

Thanks!

[edbro]

I have seen the NIV Bible in MSLit format. I would like to purchase it if I thought I could convert it to lrf. But, I'm afraid that I would lose some functionality if I do. Is this fear founded? Has anybody tried converting a commercial version of the Bible from another format?