Cybook Gen 3 with Epub support on Thursday - Page 5

EowynCarter · 04-29-2009, 04:54 AM

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No, it will give you a justification to remove the DRM (as it will for me), it will stil be illegal

Not according to french law

And having to redownload all my book when getting a new reader, or the risk of losing them if the website goes under was justification enough

HarryT · 04-29-2009, 04:57 AM

Let us not jump to conclusions, please. We don't know that Bookeen are dropping Mobi support and, even if they do, it will not affect any current devices, so nobody will "lose access" to their eBooks.

astra · 04-29-2009, 05:01 AM

I really doubt they are going to drop mobipocket support. It would make too many loyal customers (who spent hundreds or even thouthands of euros on mobipocket ebooks over the last two years) angry.

ErwinOtten · 04-29-2009, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Let us not jump to conclusions, please. We don't know that Bookeen are dropping Mobi support and, even if they do, it will not affect any current devices, so nobody will "lose access" to their eBooks.

It will when they give you the choise: firmware-update with e-pub or no firmware update at all......

But you're right we are jumping into conclusions at the moment.

Let's just wait, after all, that's the most important virtue to have when you're dealing with bookeen

JanG · 04-29-2009, 05:10 AM

Okay, so can I have some definitive advice here please. Should I order my Cybook today? It doesn't really matter if I order it today or in two months because I won't receive it either way until July when my relative comes from the UK. (Can't have it sent direct here because the import duty I'd have to pay would be higher than the price of the Cybook). If I order it today, I would have .prc support regardless of whether or not the rumours are true. Then I just wouldn't upgrade the firmware when a new version is ready.

Opinions please.

--JanG.

HarryT · 04-29-2009, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ErwinOtten

It will when they give you the choise: firmware-update with e-pub or no firmware update at all......

But nobody is going to hold a gun to your head and force you to install a firmware upgrade, are they?

. I certainly wouldn't install it if the result would be a loss of Mobi support, because there's really nothing on the current Gen3 that I'm unhappy with.

Let's just wait and see, before jumping to conclusions

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astra · 04-29-2009, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JanG

Okay, so can I have some definitive advice here please. Should I order my Cybook today? It doesn't really matter if I order it today or in two months because I won't receive it either way until July when my relative comes from the UK. (Can't have it sent direct here because the import duty I'd have to pay would be higher than the price of the Cybook). If I order it today, I would have .prc support regardless of whether or not the rumours are true. Then I just wouldn't upgrade the firmware when a new version is ready.

Opinions please.

--JanG.

I think ordering it now and relying on DRM-infected format that might not be supported in the future by your reader maker is a big mistake. If you really want to read drm-infected mobipocket format no matter what, then find a different ebook reader.
However, I would advice and wait. No one knows whether mobipocket support is going to be dropped.
Wait untill they announce the new firmware update.

K-Thom · 04-29-2009, 05:25 AM

To be honest, I'd advise you to wait for those two months.

There's so much speculation out there - which could easily been put aside, if Bookeen would finally communicate with their customers (the readers are listening) - that one simply cannot tell what the new firmware will look like or which implications it will have.

Besides, the price may even be a bit lower in two months ...

K-Thom · 04-29-2009, 05:29 AM

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I certainly wouldn't install it if the result would be a loss of Mobi support, because there's really nothing on the current Gen3 that I'm unhappy with.

So you're not waiting for

- folder support
- a functioning DEL-button
- customizable buttons at all

to name just a few? Features which should not force any decision on the customers pro or con prc/epub.

JanG · 04-29-2009, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by astra

I think ordering it now and relying on DRM-infected format that might not be supported in the future by your reader maker is a big mistake. If you really want to read drm-infected mobipocket format no matter what, then find a different ebook reader.
However, I would advice and wait. No one knows whether mobipocket support is going to be dropped.
Wait untill they announce the new firmware update.

I hear you. But I've already stripped my books of drm. Most of them were .lit and when I found I peferred reading on mobipocket I stripped the drm and converted them all to .prc. Mobipocket is so much easier on the eye to read than MSReader.

And if I wait for the new firmware update and then order, I'd be getting the new version of the firmware and I'd have to re-convert all my books.

--JanG.

tompe · 04-29-2009, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by K-Thom

So you're not waiting for

- folder support
- a functioning DEL-button
- customizable buttons at all

to name just a few? Features which should not force any decision on the customers pro or con prc/epub.

Or important bug fixes concerning fonts in pdf documents.

HarryT · 04-29-2009, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by K-Thom

So you're not waiting for

- folder support
- a functioning DEL-button
- customizable buttons at all

to name just a few? Features which should not force any decision on the customers pro or con prc/epub.

It would be nice to have folder support, yes, but I can't say that the lack of it actually bothers me. After all, I've been reading Mobi books for more years than I care to remember, on PDAs, etc, and no version of the Mobi reader (other than the iLiad, whose Mobi implementation was so awful that I stopped using it after a few days) has ever supported folders.

The other things you mention are of no interest to me at all.

pdurrant · 04-29-2009, 05:42 AM

In that case I'd advise waiting. You're obvously competant technically, and re-converting from .lit to ePUB will be easy if it becomes necessary.

July is three months away, and anything could happen before then - even the launch of a reader you'd prefer to the CyBook.

If you're relying on someone to bring the ebook to you I'd suggest keeping a close eye on stock levels at your preferred supplier (I'd suggest WH Smiths). You don't want to leave the order so late that it doesn't arrive in time.

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Originally Posted by JanG

I hear you. But I've already stripped my books of drm. Most of them were .lit and when I found I peferred reading on mobipocket I stripped the drm and converted them all to .prc. Mobipocket is so much easier on the eye to read than MSReader.

And if I wait for the new firmware update and then order, I'd be getting the new version of the firmware and I'd have to re-convert all my books.

--JanG.

JanG · 04-29-2009, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pdurrant

In that case I'd advise waiting. You're obvously competant technically, and re-converting from .lit to ePUB will be easy if it becomes necessary.

July is three months away, and anything could happen before then - even the launch of a reader you'd prefer to the CyBook.

If you're relying on someone to bring the ebook to you I'd suggest keeping a close eye on stock levels at your preferred supplier (I'd suggest WH Smiths). You don't want to leave the order so late that it doesn't arrive in time.

I was going to order it direct from Bookeen, so I can pay with my credit card and have it delivered to the UK. The relative that is coming to visit is somewhat elderly (mid-80s) and restricted in movement, would not only find it difficult to get to a store but also wouldn't know an ereader if it hit her in the face!

I'm still nervous about waiting.

--JanG.

orwell2k · 04-29-2009, 05:58 AM

Rumour has it that BeBook will soon support DRM ePub in one of their firmware updates. I'll believe it when I see it, but if it should happen I believe it (or them, meaning Hanlin V3 clones) will be the first eReader to support multiple DRM formats.

Which seems to go against the restrictive practices currently imposed, such as the exclusivity agreement Mobipocket requires before allowing DRM Mobi support on a reader - but that's a good (great!) thing.

Could be the first step towards having readers supporting multiple secure formats, meaning consumers can actually have some freedom of choice when these scumbag publishers do their back-deals and agree to only release eBook in a specific format.

Also, if BeBook / Hanlin / Jinke / lBook are doing this, then surely CyBook coulod also support both Mobi and ePub, rather than the either/or situation this thread fears. Granted, the spec page seems to have dropped Mobi and included ePub, but here's hoping they aren't actually the bastards we assume they are.

I guess it's "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst."

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04-29-2009, 04:57 AM	#62
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,556 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Let us not jump to conclusions, please. We don't know that Bookeen are dropping Mobi support and, even if they do, it will not affect any current devices, so nobody will "lose access" to their eBooks.

04-29-2009, 05:01 AM	#63
astra The Introvert Posts: 8,307 Karma: 1000077497 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United Kingdom Device: Sony Reader PRS-650 & 505 & 500	I really doubt they are going to drop mobipocket support. It would make too many loyal customers (who spent hundreds or even thouthands of euros on mobipocket ebooks over the last two years) angry.

04-29-2009, 05:10 AM	#65
JanG Groupie Posts: 156 Karma: 6266 Join Date: Apr 2009 Device: Laptop; Kobo Clara	Okay, so can I have some definitive advice here please. Should I order my Cybook today? It doesn't really matter if I order it today or in two months because I won't receive it either way until July when my relative comes from the UK. (Can't have it sent direct here because the import duty I'd have to pay would be higher than the price of the Cybook). If I order it today, I would have .prc support regardless of whether or not the rumours are true. Then I just wouldn't upgrade the firmware when a new version is ready. Opinions please. --JanG.

04-29-2009, 05:25 AM	#68
K-Thom The one and only Posts: 3,302 Karma: 535819 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Device: yup!	To be honest, I'd advise you to wait for those two months. There's so much speculation out there - which could easily been put aside, if Bookeen would finally communicate with their customers (the readers are listening) - that one simply cannot tell what the new firmware will look like or which implications it will have. Besides, the price may even be a bit lower in two months ...

04-29-2009, 05:58 AM	#75
orwell2k Addict Posts: 357 Karma: 1112 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Euroland Device: PocketBook 360°, BeBook (Hanlin V3), iRex DR1000S, iPad	Rumour has it that BeBook will soon support DRM ePub in one of their firmware updates. I'll believe it when I see it, but if it should happen I believe it (or them, meaning Hanlin V3 clones) will be the first eReader to support multiple DRM formats. Which seems to go against the restrictive practices currently imposed, such as the exclusivity agreement Mobipocket requires before allowing DRM Mobi support on a reader - but that's a good (great!) thing. Could be the first step towards having readers supporting multiple secure formats, meaning consumers can actually have some freedom of choice when these scumbag publishers do their back-deals and agree to only release eBook in a specific format. Also, if BeBook / Hanlin / Jinke / lBook are doing this, then surely CyBook coulod also support both Mobi and ePub, rather than the either/or situation this thread fears. Granted, the spec page seems to have dropped Mobi and included ePub, but here's hoping they aren't actually the bastards we assume they are. I guess it's "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst."

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