Amazon Kindle 2.0 to be launched on Feb 9th? - Page 5

phenomshel · 01-27-2009, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Ok... so my feeling is that they are not going to announce a new 6inch device. It will be one of the following in order to my mind of possibility:

1. A new firmware versions for the current device that adds some major features. Could be:
a. Folder support
b. ePub support
c. PDF support

2. The sale of Kindle books for non-Kindle devices.

3. A GSM rev of the same device for Europe and/or Asia and/or Australia.

4. A larger screen sized unit

5. A rev of the current device with the Epson controller or move to the plastic screen.

6. Least likely a whole new rev of the 6inch device with different case similar to pics that were previously leaked. Although non-replaceable battery and no SD card slot seem like steps backward that I can't see them taking.

BOb

Would love to see your #2 happen, Bob!

Shel

pilotbob · 01-27-2009, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston

1) A new version of the Kindle
Reasoning: How inventory went suddenly from available to 11/13 weeks. I think they had planned production of the Kindle 1 to get through the holidays and were getting ready for make the new version. The unanticipated demand with no parts inventory/production pipeline left them no choice but to hold off new orders until the new version was ready for release.

I don't follow your reasoning. I think the issue is just as I said way back when the shortage started. Amazon has a history of underpromise and over deliver. I am pretty sure they projected longer ship times than they expected. They were planning all the time to increase production to meet this increased plan. The way you get happy customers is to deliver the device sooner than you originally promised.

Also, I think if the device is radically different rather than some incremental changes they won't be able to ship them. You have to fulfill the orders with what people were expecting. Not some radically different model. This would be like Sony shipping the PRS 700 to people that ordered the 505. Most people would be unhappy.

BOb

Boston · 01-27-2009, 11:21 PM

While I follow your reasoning pilotbob, I can't ignore all the indications suggesting a new version of the Kindle. We know its been in the works..who knows how radically different it is in form or whether its the leaked version or not. But I doubt Amazon would make this sort of hype for a firmware upgrade when a new version of the Kindle has been anticipated for awhile.

I also think your points 3-4-5 still count as a new version of the Kindle, so we are actually in agreement. Although I think a larger screen will come later.

I think they are caught between a rock and a hard place. I've seen other mfg caught in a similar dilemma when winding down existing model production before the new models are ready resulting in periods of no inventory (specifically a time when you couldn't buy an HP printer for months). I would've have expected the wait time to not jump overnight to months if they were still producing. Keep in mind, this happened AFTER the Oprah deal was done and before the Christmas rush. We'd hear more about people still getting new Kindles as they came in. Likewise, they couldn't suddenly start producing the old version again to meet demand, if they had exhausted their supply of the old processor, etc..

My guess is that they release a new enhanced (at least in their minds) Kindle and the price goes back up to $399. People who have been waiting will get the new Kindle (with a faster processor) at the old Kindle price. Kindle 1 users get a major firmware upgrade. And there is a new Kindle for sale.

But I am speculating just like everyone else

wallcraft · 01-28-2009, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

1. A new firmware versions for the current device that adds some major features. Could be:
a. Folder support
b. ePub support
c. PDF support

The "new firmware" has to be 1.20 which has just been released, because it will take until Feb 9th for it to be installed on most Kindles. This does not have folders, but it might have ePub or PDF support (or some other new ebook format support). Someone with the update on their Kindle should try DRM-free PDF and ePub to see what happens.

Sweetpea · 01-28-2009, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenomshel

Even IF Amazon unveils a new Kindle, it'd have to be priced at least a hundred dollars lower than the price of a Kindle 1 to tempt me now. I'm too attached to the idea of not having to convert everything I already have to a different format, so I want something that can read natively everything I already have! The BeBook seems to be my best choice for the money at the moment, though I'll be researching clear up to the minute I place an order, I'm sure.

Shel

The same here. Besides, if those leaked pictures are for real, I don't find the Kindle 2 easier on the eye than the Kindle 1. That bevel is way too thick, in comparison with the screen. It makes it look cheap (the Kindle 1 doesn't look too bad, it's only that keyboard that I don't like...)

But I do hope they'll announce an introduction of the Kindle in Europe. It will make my options for a new ebook reader grow by one...

fugazied · 01-28-2009, 02:39 AM

That's the final straw, I'm buying one then

Charbax · 01-28-2009, 03:53 AM

I think it should be 5" with a wacom touchscreen and stylus for collaborative note taking, come with an unlocked HSDPA sim card slot, support bluetooth and usb keyboards for note taking as well as come with a built-in table stand for when using the keyboards. It should be like the latest Samsung E-Ink prototype:

http://gottabemobile.com/2009/01/09/...s-e-ink-device

But in my opinion without any border around the screen. And have the minimum amount of buttons on the side. Only buttons needed next to the screen on the front of the device should be small next page, previous page, menu and other few shortcut buttons. This way, such a 5" E-Ink device could fit in any pocket.

In terms of software services, I think it should come with a totally open rss feed agregator and a way to select pages with your computer that then are beamed to you E-Ink reader so that you can then later read all of it on an E-Ink screen instead of a normal backlit computer screen.

astra · 01-28-2009, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickyMaveety

Oh my. Another comment from a Sony owner. Gee, guys, we know you don't like the Kindle. Otherwise you would have bought a Kindle. Right? And, are those of us who have Kindles and love them supposed to run right out an get something else because you don't like the looks of it? Really?? You are going with that idea? Good luck with it.

I always have to wonder about people who have nothing better to do than bash the other guy's device .... and then they turn around and whine that they don't have the particular functionality or access that the other device has.

For the record, unless a whole bunch of people vote you in as the design-czar for the world. I really don't give even the tiniest rats ass about your views of what is ugly, fugly, or any other iteration of same.

If you didn't, you would not bother to write such a detailed reply

canicula · 01-28-2009, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Munch

I hope for an upgraded design.. The Kindle is without a doubt, the fugliest piece of equipment ever! O_o

Agreed. If it looks like the alleged leaked photos then it hasn't improved. Will stick with my dark blue Sony PRS-505.

Ian

nelsonescorcio · 01-28-2009, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TadW

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

A very common remark when looking at something truly ugly!...

Regards
Nelson

TadW · 01-28-2009, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nelsonescorcio

A very common remark when looking at something truly ugly!...

Well, I admit, the first time I heard this saying was when my girlfriend mentioned me to her friends...

daesdaemar · 01-28-2009, 09:02 AM

For me personally, the most interesting information about the new Kindle will be format support. I'm very curious if Amazon's (Bezo's) business/revenue model will allow for the new Kindle to support a wide variety of formats.

lovebeta · 01-28-2009, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alisa

If we're talking about the one posted with this article, I'm really hoping that's a prototype. If it's not, it shows they haven't been listening to their customers or tech reporters.

Same here. I actually like the first gen better if the spyshot is indeed Gen 2.

pilotbob · 01-28-2009, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astra

If you didn't, you would not bother to write such a detailed reply

Actually it only proves that she cares that you know that she doesn't care.

BOb

astra · 01-28-2009, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Actually it only proves that she cares that you know that she doesn't care.

BOb

Well, then she failed at that but achieved the opposite. Next time she should use different tactics.

01-27-2009, 11:21 PM	#63
Boston Fanatic Posts: 555 Karma: 40032 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boston :) Device: Kindle, Kobo Aura H20, Pixel XL	While I follow your reasoning pilotbob, I can't ignore all the indications suggesting a new version of the Kindle. We know its been in the works..who knows how radically different it is in form or whether its the leaked version or not. But I doubt Amazon would make this sort of hype for a firmware upgrade when a new version of the Kindle has been anticipated for awhile. I also think your points 3-4-5 still count as a new version of the Kindle, so we are actually in agreement. Although I think a larger screen will come later. I think they are caught between a rock and a hard place. I've seen other mfg caught in a similar dilemma when winding down existing model production before the new models are ready resulting in periods of no inventory (specifically a time when you couldn't buy an HP printer for months). I would've have expected the wait time to not jump overnight to months if they were still producing. Keep in mind, this happened AFTER the Oprah deal was done and before the Christmas rush. We'd hear more about people still getting new Kindles as they came in. Likewise, they couldn't suddenly start producing the old version again to meet demand, if they had exhausted their supply of the old processor, etc.. My guess is that they release a new enhanced (at least in their minds) Kindle and the price goes back up to $399. People who have been waiting will get the new Kindle (with a faster processor) at the old Kindle price. Kindle 1 users get a major firmware upgrade. And there is a new Kindle for sale. But I am speculating just like everyone else Last edited by Boston; 01-27-2009 at 11:31 PM.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Kindle will be launched in Germany shortly	sturgeon	Amazon Kindle	2	10-16-2009 06:46 PM
Amazon Kindle - driving lots of traffic to Amazon	Alexander Turcic	Amazon Kindle	18	02-01-2009 05:16 PM
Buy Broken Amazon Kindle (for registering to my amazon account)	cynoclast	Flea Market	7	12-30-2008 06:53 PM
Omnivoracious - new Amazon book blog launched	TadW	Deals and Resources (No Self-Promotion or Affiliate Links)	1	10-27-2007 10:06 AM
Amazon joins the E Ink club with Amazon Kindle	Alexander Turcic	Amazon Kindle	8	09-13-2006 11:33 AM

01-28-2009, 02:39 AM	#66
fugazied Wizard Posts: 1,305 Karma: 1958 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: iPod Touch	That's the final straw, I'm buying one then

01-28-2009, 03:53 AM	#67
Charbax Addict Posts: 203 Karma: 550683 Join Date: Mar 2007	I think it should be 5" with a wacom touchscreen and stylus for collaborative note taking, come with an unlocked HSDPA sim card slot, support bluetooth and usb keyboards for note taking as well as come with a built-in table stand for when using the keyboards. It should be like the latest Samsung E-Ink prototype: http://gottabemobile.com/2009/01/09/...s-e-ink-device But in my opinion without any border around the screen. And have the minimum amount of buttons on the side. Only buttons needed next to the screen on the front of the device should be small next page, previous page, menu and other few shortcut buttons. This way, such a 5" E-Ink device could fit in any pocket. In terms of software services, I think it should come with a totally open rss feed agregator and a way to select pages with your computer that then are beamed to you E-Ink reader so that you can then later read all of it on an E-Ink screen instead of a normal backlit computer screen.

01-28-2009, 09:02 AM	#72
daesdaemar Addict Posts: 210 Karma: 4282 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Florida Device: Sony 505, Kindle 3, iPad 3	For me personally, the most interesting information about the new Kindle will be format support. I'm very curious if Amazon's (Bezo's) business/revenue model will allow for the new Kindle to support a wide variety of formats.

Advert

Advert