Holding my Voyage close - And loving it!

[re4om]

Originally Posted by Barty

Someone on Reddit says the new PW has darker text than the oasis (unclear which Oasis they meant). That sounds promising. Could we have a voyage successor finally?

For me kobo libra2 with e ink carta 1200 screen is best alternative to voyage. There are some comparison photos in thread "kobo sage opinion". Nathan (blog.the-ebook-reader.com) and Almamida mention that libra2 screen very close to voyage. Wait for battle PW5 vs Libra2

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by re4om

Wait for battle PW5 vs Libra2

It's already been said in more than one thread here that the PW5 is not as good as either the Libra 2 or the Voyage.

[vxf]

For what it's worth, I got the new paperwhite yesterday, not-signature.
The screen is the most uniform illumination I had on any Kindle, except for the Voyage - they are about on par.
But the text is a bit darker on my new PW than on the Voyage. Overall, this is my new favorite Kindle screen.

The Oasis I had, first gen Oasis, was a disaster. Most uneven screen I have ever had, on any electronic device, period. Just these cones of light/shade across the screen.

Frankly, we have many Kindle lovers in my extended family. We have often compared screens of the same model, same gen - and found huge variation, in tone, uniformity, brightness, everything.

So I wonder, when I read these conversations... it seems to me it really is all just luck of the draw. Variation is huge, quality control is a joke...

[Deobulakenyo]

another detail that is not clear is the resolution of this PW5.

[badgoodDeb]

Arggh!! I hadn't used my Voyage in a while; I like the real buttons on the Oasis #1 (un-numbered, actually). But all this talk made me pull out the Voyage. It downloaded 7-8 new books, got an update to the latest (for it) firmware, and let me read a novella and a full book. Oh, but the left side haptic buttons didn't work. Only the right side buttons.

And now it's gone wonky, required a long-press on the power button to restart it (it wouldn't restart when the prompt asked "Cancel Restart ScreenOff", though it would turn the screen off). It went through the restart, but wouldn't open when it was finished.

As I plugged it in to let it rest and recharge, before again trying to get it off the "swipe to unlock" screen ..... I noticed that the left side of the glass is high and out of its socket. I can press it down and it returns to a 1/16" high.

Can I safely let it be while I order a new battery and attempt to replace it? Or is it likely to catch fire Real Soon Now? Is it safe??

[ My nephew notice my Mom's Voyage, newer than mine, with an enlarged battery around Aug 20, and removed it and plunged it into a sand bucket for safety. It must have been more enlarged than this, I think, for him to notice it. But she hadn't shelved it for 2-3 years, like I did while using the Oasis 1 instead.)

[max99]

Originally Posted by John F

I agree that in general, adding color LED's shouldn't effect screen quality when they are turned off. But you didn't quote a post. It makes as much sense to me as your "no bezel compromised screen quality".

I meant raised bezels. Removing the raised bezel introduced another layer for capacitive touch which further compromised clarity.

[John F]

Originally Posted by max99

I meant raised bezels. Removing the raised bezel introduced another layer for capacitive touch which further compromised clarity.

Just like adding LEDs may effect clarity? Maybe the OP didn't fully qualify their statement: Due to adding LEDs, they needed to modify the light guide layer, which comprised clarity.

Just playing devil's advocate.

[max99]

Originally Posted by John F

Just like adding LEDs may effect clarity? Maybe the OP didn't fully qualify their statement: Due to adding LEDs, they needed to modify the light guide layer, which comprised clarity.

Just playing devil's advocate.

I'd be very surprised if changing the colour of an LED would require any re-engineering of the screen layers but I'd be happy to be proved wrong in the interests of engineering.

Has there been any anecdotal evidence, or otherwise, that warm light functionality has reduced the clarity of e-readers?

[Dr. Drib]

Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

Arggh!! I hadn't used my Voyage in a while; I like the real buttons on the Oasis #1 (un-numbered, actually). But all this talk made me pull out the Voyage. It downloaded 7-8 new books, got an update to the latest (for it) firmware, and let me read a novella and a full book. Oh, but the left side haptic buttons didn't work. Only the right side buttons.

And now it's gone wonky, required a long-press on the power button to restart it (it wouldn't restart when the prompt asked "Cancel Restart ScreenOff", though it would turn the screen off). It went through the restart, but wouldn't open when it was finished.

As I plugged it in to let it rest and recharge, before again trying to get it off the "swipe to unlock" screen ..... I noticed that the left side of the glass is high and out of its socket. I can press it down and it returns to a 1/16" high.

Can I safely let it be while I order a new battery and attempt to replace it? Or is it likely to catch fire Real Soon Now? Is it safe??

[ My nephew notice my Mom's Voyage, newer than mine, with an enlarged battery around Aug 20, and removed it and plunged it into a sand bucket for safety. It must have been more enlarged than this, I think, for him to notice it. But she hadn't shelved it for 2-3 years, like I did while using the Oasis 1 instead.)

If you take this apart, please be CAREFUL! Wear eye goggles/face mask, adequate clothing, and gloves. If you do go that route and, after having opened it, see if the battery has leaked or if it's 'only' expanded. If acid has leaked out, I would get rid of the Voyage. But be careful!

The above is based only upon my recommendation on what I would do. Also, I have not personally experienced a swollen battery on any of my ebook readers

[John F]

Originally Posted by max99

I'd be very surprised if changing the colour of an LED would require any re-engineering of the screen layers but I'd be happy to be proved wrong in the interests of engineering.

...

I thought for warm lighting, it may not be just "changing colors", but adding LEDs. For example:

https://goodereader.com/blog/electro...erature-system

[GlenBarrington]

I have replaced my Voyage with a new Paperwhite 11th Gen device. The battery on the Voyage is deteriorating and will only hold a charge with 4 days of modest use. I don't want to change the battery. This Paperwhite is the first new Kindle I've ever bought. All my others were purchased used.

Comparing the 2 devices:

The screen is significantly larger on the PW. This, I like. I have the option of big text or cramming more little text onto the screen for fewer page turns.

I miss the buttons of the Voyage. The screen taps aren't the same thing somehow.

Display quality of the two are roughly comparable. I have no complaints, both are sharp and evenly lit. I have never used the color temp settings as I MUCH prefer reading black text on white background, or in darkened rooms, white text on black background.

In my eyes, it's just a bigger, traditional Paperwhite device. Still good value for the money, and well suited to my aging eyes. I find that long reading sessions with it is comfortable. I am content.

[DNSB]

Originally Posted by GlenBarrington

In my eyes, it's just a bigger, traditional Paperwhite device. Still good value for the money, and well suited to my aging eyes. I find that long reading sessions with it is comfortable. I am content.

And that is the most important item for me. No matter what the bells and whistles, if you can't read comfortably on an ereader, it's not worth buying.

[NullNix]

Originally Posted by max99

I'd be very surprised if changing the colour of an LED would require any re-engineering of the screen layers but I'd be happy to be proved wrong in the interests of engineering.

I'm reasonably sure it does. AIUI, the light guide is an intricate piece of etching which uses diffraction to spread the light out -- and, as such, it depends on the frequency of the light it's guiding.

I'm fairly amazed they managed to come up with a light guide design that works *at all* when the colour changes, let alone working as well as it does. (Perhaps the frequency-dependence isn't as delicate as I thought it was.)

[j.p.s]

Originally Posted by NullNix

I'm reasonably sure it does. AIUI, the light guide is an intricate piece of etching which uses diffraction to spread the light out -- and, as such, it depends on the frequency of the light it's guiding.

I'm fairly amazed they managed to come up with a light guide design that works *at all* when the colour changes, let alone working as well as it does. (Perhaps the frequency-dependence isn't as delicate as I thought it was.)

Any light guide that works for "white" light should work for any subset of "white" light. which, after all, is a mixture of discrete colors.

[ZodWallop]

Originally Posted by Skydog

It is when comparing PW vs. Voyage. You just made my point... the PW outsells the more expensive Oasis.

Not at all. Your point is only made when you set the parameters in such a way that favors your outcome. And even then, you aren't looking at the big picture.

Following your logic: The average consumer will only buy a device when the screen is somewhat fuzzy. I'm saying that when comparing the Voyage to the Oasis. People obviously did not like the sharp Voyage screen. That is why the Voyage did not get a follow-up and the Oasis did.

Or we could just be honest and say that the features are on factor in an average consumer's decision, but then there are other factors as well. The Paperwhite hits the feature to cost ratio that makes most purchasers happy.