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Old 10-23-2016, 07:06 PM   #61
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Weird, I just send a book via send to kindle yesterday and I changed/fixed the title and the author and its shows like that on my Kindle. What I don't have are covers. I never get covers when I send them via send my kindle. I can't figure out what to do to get them. I convert in calibre to mobi and there is a tag says something like ebok in some field somewhere. I think I have it set to "both" mobi.
Most of my books come from amazon, but I would still like to have some covers on the sideloaded ones. Once in a while a book has it, not changing any of the calibre settings, but most don't have it. I gave up trying to figure that one out.
Covers need to be large. I always change the size to be 1200 X 1800. Anything much smaller will not show on your kindle and you will get the generic cover. Check in Calibre if the covers are too small. (Selecting Edit will show the size on the bottom right of the cover image).
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Old 10-23-2016, 07:09 PM   #62
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Maybe you see the covers because you use old mobi. I use combined (both) and covers are not visible.
I was always under the impression that sending a combined AZW/mobi does not show covers on the kindle, any kindle. I thought that was always the case.

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Weird, I just send a book via send to kindle yesterday and I changed/fixed the title and the author and its shows like that on my Kindle.
https://www.amazon.com/forum/kindle?...=TxT7F2EXVMP0H
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Old 10-24-2016, 02:28 AM   #65
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CyberPaul, if the original file is imported into Calibre and then, after the title/authors name is fixed the file is reformatted, the fixed name/title will be part of the metadata, which is why it is showing correctly on the kindle after being sent via Send To Kindle.

If the original file IS NOT REFORMATED then the changes won't take effect.
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CyberPaul, if the original file is imported into Calibre and then, after the title/authors name is fixed the file is reformatted, the fixed name/title will be part of the metadata, which is why it is showing correctly on the kindle after being sent via Send To Kindle.

If the original file IS NOT REFORMATED then the changes won't take effect.
I know that. I was explaining that whatever you type in "send to kindle" application is not relevant, and you are confirming that.
Atunah should try to change it before sending, typing something different from what is inside metadata.

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Yes, I can hypenhate with these tricks, but kerning and drop caps won't work anyway... it is unacceptable. These are things that a good engine should offer and they invented a new format (kfx) just to avoid you use them in your books not bought from their store.
Well, there's another reason: they don't want to change their existing viewing apps much if at all. They wrote a new one in an entirely different language for AZW3: if they were writing a new one for KFX anyway... this does say terrible things about their software engineering, that they prefer to rewrite *everything* rather than add a few features, but it's not necessarily *entirely* malicious.
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If the original file IS NOT REFORMATED then the changes won't take effect.
I'd like to add, that Calibre has a setting for this. Either leave original File untouched or merge the changes into the metadata.

I for example don't like Calibre to touch what's inside of my files, therefore I disabled it.
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I'd like to add, that Calibre has a setting for this. Either leave original File untouched or merge the changes into the metadata.

I for example don't like Calibre to touch what's inside of my files, therefore I disabled it.
What's the point of changing your books' metadata in Calibre if the changes don't go through to the actual books?
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I know that. I was explaining that whatever you type in "send to kindle" application is not relevant, and you are confirming that.
Atunah should try to change it before sending, typing something different from what is inside metadata.
I haven't confirmed anything for you, and I wouldn't as I don't agree with your view. I always reformat my mobi files if I've made changes to the title, author or cover BEFORE sending my mobi file to my kindle via Send to Kindle.

I never have any issues with the books I buy from elsewhere on my kindle.

Also I create my own ebooks for fan fiction on word documents, I give them proper covers, titles and authors, and again I have no issues whatsoever.
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What's the point of changing your books' metadata in Calibre if the changes don't go through to the actual books?
Well first of all Calibre is just an "organizing" tool. You can add books to it and these books are being copied over to the "Calibre Library" folder of your home directory.

All downloaded metadata from e.g. Amazon is being stored in the sqlite3 file called "metadata.db" within that "Calibre Library" folder. The metadata.db is actually the file responsible in keeping your database intact, ordered, structured etc.. The database is at the end the visual representation of what Calibre shows the user.

The individual book folders inside the "Calibre Library" contains the *.opf files (individual exported metadata per book basis) and optional a cover image and the book itself.

So basicly "changing" the metadata inside the book is just a matter of personal preference!

I for one don't like Calibre to touch the original e.g. *.epub, *.mobi files as where I downloaded them. This can have various different reasons. e.g. one may be md5sum'ing a backup of individual books and you like the md5sums to match the original books that you downloaded.

Others like to merge and manipulate the content of these book (said *.epub, *.mobi). Often this ends up in people messing around within the structure of the book without really knowing what they do. Sometimes I ended up finding books on the net that had two "table of contents" (one at the beginning and one applied through Calibre at the end). Misaligned or hard removed Tables (there is an option for that inside Calibre). Sometimes I end up getting books with two covers, A cover section put infront of another cover section and so on.

Or people simply applying or pulling wrong metadata from Amazon or other places and have the book end up being an utterly mess. I often find books where the ASIN number got changed a couple of times or the representative ISBN number (10 digits and 13 digits) that was written in the publisher page of the book (at the beginning or at the end) doesn't match the applied ISBN number of the metadata (made by someone) and so on.

So it's kinda philosophical whether you want to do this or not. I for my own decided to *not* touch the books contents once I downloaded them (regardless whether the data is valid or not) and have all metadata information stored in the sqlite3 file of Calibre.

The metadata I only apply when I do a book conversion e.g. convert the book from *.epub to *.mobi during the send process (e.g. sending the book from the Calibre Library to the Kindle).
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Well first of all Calibre is just an "organizing" tool. You can add books to it and these books are being copied over to the "Calibre Library" folder of your home directory.

All downloaded metadata from e.g. Amazon is being stored in the sqlite3 file called "metadata.db" within that "Calibre Library" folder. The metadata.db is actually the file responsible in keeping your database intact, ordered, structured etc.. The database is at the end the visual representation of what Calibre shows the user.

The individual book folders inside the "Calibre Library" contains the *.opf files (individual exported metadata per book basis) and optional a cover image and the book itself.
Yes, I'm well aware of all that .

My point is that the reason you are changing the metadata is presumably because the change you make to (for example) an author's name is the change you want to show up when you send the book to your reader.

Calibre only ever applied metadata changes to a book when you either export the book, either by sending it to a device or saving it to the disk, or you do a format conversion on it.

If you don't want the metadata changes to show up on your reader, there would seem to be little point in making them at all!
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I haven't confirmed anything for you, and I wouldn't as I don't agree with your view. I always reformat my mobi files if I've made changes to the title, author or cover BEFORE sending my mobi file to my kindle via Send to Kindle.

I never have any issues with the books I buy from elsewhere on my kindle.

Also I create my own ebooks for fan fiction on word documents, I give them proper covers, titles and authors, and again I have no issues whatsoever.
It's not a matter of point of view!
Very simply again, you can type everything you want in the text widget of "send to kindle", it just ignores it! It's a fact, not a philosophical theory.
The fact that you inject in the metadata the info before sending, ensures that title and author are already set inside the ebook and that's why you can see them in the kindle.
I said that you confirmed that because you stated that you change metadata and process the ebook before sending it. So you are not leveraging of the send to kindle app
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Cyberpaul. I'm not interested in debating with you. The kindle software is perfectly fine for me. The fact that it's not fine for you is your own problem.
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