New Kindles?

[344a]

Originally Posted by dordale

I believe the only difference (in the US) is that Amazon released a white PW in 2016. Same specs as the updated 2015 black one, just a different color option.

That is what I think. But the white one would cost me more.
BTW, anyone has a white kindle? Does the white bezel affect your reading? I mean isn't it glazed?

[HarryT]

No, the bezel is plastic. No glass.

[344a]

Originally Posted by HarryT

No, the bezel is plastic. No glass.

I know it is plastic. Comparing to the black, white reflects more light. You know what I mean! White could be more distracting.

[HarryT]

If you're asking if it's shiny, no, it's not. It's a matt white.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by 344a

Obviously there is no other ways to make the devices lighter at the moment.

And there's no need to make devices lighter. Leave them alone so they have room for a hefty battery and can be held easier. There comes a point when it's gone too far. The iPhone 7 phones are a case in point.

[meeera]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

And there's no need to make devices lighter.

... for some people. You don't speak for everyone.

[344a]

Originally Posted by HarryT

If you're asking if it's shiny, no, it's not. It's a matt white.

Thank you. It is not a matter to me now. I just got a Voyage.

[344a]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

And there's no need to make devices lighter. Leave them alone so they have room for a hefty battery and can be held easier. There comes a point when it's gone too far. The iPhone 7 phones are a case in point.

I do like a lighter reader, especialy when I am standing waiting for buses, trains or something. I hope in the near future, people can make some more-eco-friendly and long life, less weight batteries. Am I asking for too much?? :P

BTW, I was told that the battery of the Apple products is one of the most toxic batteries ever made. I am not sure about it. But I avoid using Apple products.

[John F]

Originally Posted by 344a

Obviously there is no other ways to make the devices lighter at the moment.

Would a plastic vs glass substrate make a weight difference?

How about a plastic screen vs a glass screen?

There are probably more ways and different trade offs (ergonomics, ruggedness, cost, ...)

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by 344a

BTW, I was told that the battery of the Apple products is one of the most toxic batteries ever made. I am not sure about it. But I avoid using Apple products.

Sounds like the typical sort of anti-Apple rhetoric that's unfortunately common. Apple use exactly the same Lithium Ion battery technology that everyone else does. All batteries are toxic, but Apple's are no more so than anyone else's.

[NullNix]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

And there's no need to make devices lighter. Leave them alone so they have room for a hefty battery and can be held easier.

Thus speaks a man without RSI. For me, holding more than 150g or so in one hand hurts after ten minutes or so. But clearly your beliefs must govern!

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by 344a

I do like a lighter reader, especialy when I am standing waiting for buses, trains or something. I hope in the near future, people can make some more-eco-friendly and long life, less weight batteries. Am I asking for too much?? :P

Yes,you are asking for too much. There needs to be some heft to these devices so they are easier to hold. There also needs to be more room for a battery that holds more of a charge. So that means no more thinner and lighter. Just pick a decent size and leave it at that. If batteries do get smaller, then we can have even more battery life as there will be plenty of size for a good battery.

[344a]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Yes,you are asking for too much. There needs to be some heft to these devices so they are easier to hold. There also needs to be more room for a battery that holds more of a charge. So that means no more thinner and lighter. Just pick a decent size and leave it at that. If batteries do get smaller, then we can have even more battery life as there will be plenty of size for a good battery.

I was saying lighter, not smaller. What I was trying to say is, I wish we would have some new technologies to make the batteries lighter and more eco-friendly in the near future. It would be better if people invent something new to replace the batteries, since the batteries are so toxic to the earth.

[344a]

Originally Posted by HarryT

Sounds like the typical sort of anti-Apple rhetoric that's unfortunately common. Apple use exactly the same Lithium Ion battery technology that everyone else does. All batteries are toxic, but Apple's are no more so than anyone else's.

I don't like Apple, and I don't hate them either.

[NullNix]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Yes,you are asking for too much. There needs to be some heft to these devices so they are easier to hold. There also needs to be more room for a battery that holds more of a charge. So that means no more thinner and lighter. Just pick a decent size and leave it at that. If batteries do get smaller, then we can have even more battery life as there will be plenty of size for a good battery.

See, that's just your belief -- you apparently consider it essential that an e-reader contain enough battery for a 12-hour marathon reading session unpunctuated by the demands of biology, and that things like being able to hold the thing and turn pages with one hand are unimportant. Myself, I consider the latter more important than the former: my hands won't hurt while I'm reading, I can drink a coffee without even putting the book down, and who cares if the battery is half-drained in six hours or so? I'm going to eat something at some point in that timespan, and when I'm doing that I'm using both hands and the e-reader is flat on the table, in its cover, recharging...

My Oasis internal device battery has run low twice -- both times when I was trying to run it out. I've never even got a low-battery warning otherwise, and I never even look at the battery life. I wouldn't have believed it either, but combined with the case battery, the tiny six-hour-or-so battery really is long enough: there is no need for a larger one, and any weight spent on it woudl be weight wasted. You just have to treat the case as part of the device, and get into the habit of snapping it back in whenever you're not actually reading.