Voyage or Oasis?

[DaveFalcon73]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Apple is screwing up the design of the iPhone 7 by making is so think there's no room for the 3.5mm headphone jack.

Actually Apple didn't say there's no room for the 3.5mm jack, they just said there's so much more they could do by not having the 3.5mm jack there because it takes up so much room.

They've been able to water seal the device for IPX67 for one, add stereo speakers which give better sound and add a haptic feedback home button. That's 3x things they wouldn't have been able to fit into the iPhone if they left the 3.5mm jack socket in place. Yes they could have done all of that and left the 3.5mm socket in place but the phone would have to have got a lot thicker and larger to achieve all of the above.

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Also, by making devices thinner, the battery has to be smaller hence the Oasis. I'd prefer a thicker device that's easier to hold and can hold a larger capacity battery.

Also, if by making it thinner, we have to lose some features, then leave it thicker.

Battery technology has come on leaps and bounds in the last 5-10 years making it possible to have smaller batteries and still give the same performance and also chip power performance has also come on leaps and bounds. I'd much prefer a thinner iPhone than say a thicker iPhone of 5-6 years ago any day. Same with I'd much prefer a smaller compact Oasis than a Kindle 1 or 2.

Yes I agree there is an obsession sometimes from some manufacturers when it comes to making devices thinner and lighter although the iPhone 7 hasn't reduce it's thickness it's the same as the iPhone 6 and the weight is actually slightly heavier.

Personally I really like the Oasis for what it's worth, the two batteries and a suggested degradation on charging the battery over time doesn't bother me. I won't keep the Oasis for 5 years by then I'll probably have 2 or 3 new Kindle devices to play with.

[Kolja]

Originally Posted by SCION

The design team needs to focus on eliminating the gradient on the flush screens.

Yes and also the shadows and light cones from the LEDs. That's what I want to see on the next Kindle e-reader.

[Shinytop]

The Voyage is a very nice device. But reading one handed in bed it would flop over sometimes and either fall to the floor or hit me in the face. (At least that's my excuse for my appearance.) It was great reading at my computer desk with the origami cover.

The Oasis price did not phase me as the cover is included which put it within a ten spot of the Voyage with good cover. Yes, I know there are cheap covers.

But the Oasis was made for reading one handed. At my desk or in bed I can easily read one handed and shift hands without losing usability. The touch buttons require a strong enough input that I can hold it with my finger on the button and just press to change pages.

I also leave my Oasis in the case except when I am reading. The battery life has proved as good as the Voyage. Now the life of the battery may or may not be less but you know what. I don't care. As much as a I read it would not bother me to replace after only a year or two to have the most comfortable reader.

Now a device designed like the Oasis with a bigger screen would entice me to buy much sooner. I do not carry my Kindle around as my phone allows me to read when waiting for the dr, etc. And yes, it would have to be a Kindle.

[amd866]

Honestly after upgrading from a pw2 to an oasis I can point out a few flaws in the Voyage that would be shared with the pw that the oasis removes that most people probably didn't even consciously notice.

First of all the Kindle sign on the bottom of the voyage/pw always bothered me. It was always in my periphery and would always remove me from being completely entranced in the book.

The Oasis is great in this regard. The design of it shows no other text or even much of the borders so that you become completely entranced within the text itself. I can become more focused on the oasis than the other kindles.

The actual buttons I am also in love with. The feedback you feel when you push the buttons on the Oasis gives me a feeling of accomplishment and progress that I lacked on the paperwhite. It is almost akin to actual paperbacks where you see how far you progress in the book by the physical act of turning the page.

[barryem]

I have a Voyage (and a Paperwhite) and the Amazon logo doesn't bother me at all. When I focus on the text I don't even see the bezel anymore.

As for the buttons, my Voyage has page press but I keep it turned off. I swipe to turn pages and I always have, even back in the days of paper books.

You're not pointing out flaws in the Kindle. You're just talking about your own preferences. There's nothing wrong with that but it's probably best to call it what it is.

Barry

[amd866]

Originally Posted by barryem

I have a Voyage (and a Paperwhite) and the Amazon logo doesn't bother me at all. When I focus on the text I don't even see the bezel anymore.

As for the buttons, my Voyage has page press but I keep it turned off. I swipe to turn pages and I always have, even back in the days of paper books.

You're not pointing out flaws in the Kindle. You're just talking about your own preferences. There's nothing wrong with that but it's probably best to call it what it is.

Barry

Yeah it's definitely preference. I'm loving the ergonomic design of the oasis as well, the PW was pretty easy to handle but holding it one handed for an extended period of time was much more difficult compared to the Oasis.

[rem736]

before i purchased the voyage, i had a paperwhite. and the only reason i switched over was because the voyage has a flushed screen. while the oasis is nice (flush screen and all), i see no reason to switch over due to the price. if i did not have the voyage, i may have gone from the paperwhite to the oasis. but the switch from a voyage to the oasis is not worth it for me. my ereader is usually placed on a stand when i read, so ergomonics is not that big of an issue.

[Yamada]

Originally Posted by Sweetpea

Bah, do the same as I did with the One... Just order it and take the tongue lashing while you're playing with your new toy (I wonder what my husband will say when there's more than just that keyboard in the box )

I know this post is old, but I lol'd hard at it. I got a Kobo Aura One, got lashed for that by my wife, it had too many issues so I returned it, then received a second lashing when I got the Oasis. To her defense, I did buy a Kobo Glo HD earlier this year (nothing wrong it at all, and in fact I wouldn't have gotten the Kindle, but my son's going off to college in America, he ended up with the Glo).

But nooo....she gets a big 'ol fancy iPad Pro for her birthday and no complaints there!

[Barty]

Originally Posted by Yamada

I know this post is old, but I lol'd hard at it. I got a Kobo Aura One, got lashed for that by my wife, it had too many issues so I returned it, then received a second lashing when I got the Oasis. To her defense, I did buy a Kobo Glo HD earlier this year (nothing wrong it at all, and in fact I wouldn't have gotten the Kindle, but my son's going off to college in America, he ended up with the Glo).

But nooo....she gets a big 'ol fancy iPad Pro for her birthday and no complaints there!

Tsk tsk, it's not a competition.

[ArthurianLegends]

I'm thinking of upgrading to the Voyage, as the Oasis I have seen have a screen quality that is similar or equal to the latest PW. Even though the Voyage resolution is the same, for same reason the text looks richer (darker) against the screen. Am I the only one to notice this, or is this simply a case of the models I have seen.

I have not been able to to do a side by side comparison, so maybe my eyes are playing tricks. There was only one Voyage demo in one store and one Oasis in another.

But, before I make the investment of upgrading I would like to know if Kindle screens have a history of consistency. Was the more faded look of the fonts on the oasis I saw a fluke?

On the other hand, the Voyage is almost 2 years old model specs wise. These should be seriously coming down in price.

[NullNix]

Originally Posted by ArthurianLegends

But, before I make the investment of upgrading I would like to know if Kindle screens have a history of consistency. Was the more faded look of the fonts on the oasis I saw a fluke?

It was a fluke, or rather a manufacturing inconsistency (since e-ink screens and the LEDs that illuminate them both seem to vary rather a lot between production runs and perhaps even between units). The e-ink screens on the Oasis and Voyage are identical, and the layers over the screen are perhaps slightly higher-spec on the Oasis than the Voyage (adjusted to allow for the light coming from the side rather than below, AIUI).

[barryem]

I have 3 Paperwhites and a Voyage and several of my neighbors also have Paperwhites which I see a lot since I help them with them. I also have other models. I find as much difference in individual units of the same model as I find between models. That's just how e-ink is.

I also have 3 identical Kobos and their screens are as widely varied as my Kindles.

Barry

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by ArthurianLegends

I'm thinking of upgrading to the Voyage, as the Oasis I have seen have a screen quality that is similar or equal to the latest PW. Even though the Voyage resolution is the same, for same reason the text looks richer (darker) against the screen. Am I the only one to notice this, or is this simply a case of the models I have seen.

I have not been able to to do a side by side comparison, so maybe my eyes are playing tricks. There was only one Voyage demo in one store and one Oasis in another.

But, before I make the investment of upgrading I would like to know if Kindle screens have a history of consistency. Was the more faded look of the fonts on the oasis I saw a fluke?

On the other hand, the Voyage is almost 2 years old model specs wise. These should be seriously coming down in price.

No, it's not a fluke. While there is a difference between individual screens, generally the text on the Voyage is indeed darker. I see the same on my Kindles (I have both the Oasis and the Voyage).

[Barty]

Originally Posted by Sirtel

No, it's not a fluke. While there is a difference between individual screens, generally the text on the Voyage is indeed darker. I see the same on my Kindles (I have both the Oasis and the Voyage).

Do you mean darker compared to oasis or PW or both?

[Sirtel]

Originally Posted by Barty

Do you mean darker compared to oasis or PW or both?

Darker compared to Oasis. I have never owned a Paperwhite, so cannot comment on that.