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Old 04-05-2016, 01:04 PM   #61
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Going out on a limb here what if they add alexa voice recognition ?



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Old 04-05-2016, 01:14 PM   #62
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:15 PM   #63
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Hopefully the Kindle will be as compelling as the T3.
The T3 wasn't compelling. It just was.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:23 PM   #64
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Do a lot of people want Alexa on their black and white ereaders? I don't think I'd want that.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:33 PM   #65
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The T3 wasn't compelling. It just was.
Tell that to the people putting $1000 deposits on a $35K car they won't see for two years. $10B worth of orders in less than two days. No wonder Apple tried to buy them.

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...rst-36-n550121

Or the people who pre-ordered a million Echos in two weeks:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-i...ed-echo-2016-4

Some toys just click.

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Old 04-05-2016, 01:44 PM   #66
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The T3 wasn't compelling. It just was.
I've never seen an opinion be so wrong.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:46 PM   #67
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Tell that to the people putting $1000 deposits on a $35K car they won't see for two years. $10B worth of orders in less than two days. No wonder Apple tried to buy them.

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...rst-36-n550121

Or the people who pre-ordered a million Echos in two weeks:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-i...ed-echo-2016-4

Some toys just click.
For many of them, that $1k deposit holds their spot for a $7.5K tax rebate after purchasing the car. It's not just the toy...
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:50 PM   #68
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I've never seen an opinion be so wrong.
I think Jon's talking about the Sony PRS-T3 reader.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:51 PM   #69
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Do a lot of people want Alexa on their black and white ereaders? I don't think I'd want that.
TTS.
Audible book playback.
Voice controls.

Remember the lawsuits over Kindle accessibility to the blind?

Alexa on Kindle will sell, with or without Liquavista. Plus, this is for the premium model. Doesn't mean it'll replace the Voyage. They may be going to a four tier lineup.
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I think Jon's talking about the Sony PRS-T3 reader.
A non-sequitor in an exchange over newly-announced toys, if so.
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Old 04-05-2016, 02:19 PM   #71
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People complain about the high price of the Voyage but all the Kindles, Kobos and Nooks are high priced. True we don't have to pay a lot of money for them but for that savings we get stuck in their walled garden.

I'm a poor guy and I have to save a long time for my devices but I'd much prefer that they cost a lot more and could all read whatever books we happened to buy, and if they came from hardware manufacturers who had to compete with features and not with content. I wouldn't mind saving a little longer for that.

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... but I'd much prefer that they cost a lot more and could all read whatever books we happened to buy, and if they came from hardware manufacturers who had to compete with features and not with content
Me too
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Marketing experts know how to play us!
Then they'd better get back to school and learn to play again. If your statement is true, I would have replaced my KPW1 (and many other devices) thrice over.

Choosing anything always goes the same with me:

1. I set a budget I wish to keep within +/- 10% or so, and scratch anything exceeding it.
2. From the remaining, I select the products that have the features I just *must* have.
3. From that selection, I select the products that have the features I'd like to have.
4. Then, I go by looks and/or price.

If I fail at step 2 (no products left within my budget), there are two choices:

1. I forget about acquiring this article, possibly forever Case in point: I'd really like a real rangefinder camera, but the only ones are the Leica's. Even the old 2006 M8 and 2007 M8-II often command prices north of €1500, and I'm not willing to pay that much; let alone the €4500 for a new M240.
2. I wait until prices drop, or save longer, or a new product appears, possibly waiting for years. Case in point: my Eizo monitor. I just wanted a ColorEdge or similar monitor as the replacement of my old, but very serviceable FlexScan, but the most CE-monitors offered WAY more than I needed, with stuff for creating video's and 3D stuff in special color spaces.... until about 1,5 to 2 years ago, when Eizo released a CE-monitor offering the 'basics' (basics as in professional color management terms that is), for half the price of previous CE-monitors. They 'coincidentally' cut all the 'crap' I didn't need, and kept everything I did want. It was the entree-level CE-monitor, but that still places it like two classes above any 'normal' monitor on the market.

I buy whatever I want, as close to 'perfect' (for me) as possible, and if no product gets close enough, I buy nothing. No marketing has ever managed to change my mind on that.

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Old 04-05-2016, 02:33 PM   #74
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Do a lot of people want Alexa on their black and white ereaders? I don't think I'd want that.
If Alexa on kindle results in TTS support then that would be interesting,not a sole reason to upgrade but nice .

That would mean it will need microphones and speakers though,which could also lead to many other possibilities.
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People complain about the high price of the Voyage but all the Kindles, Kobos and Nooks are high priced. True we don't have to pay a lot of money for them but for that savings we get stuck in their walled garden.
Normally yes, but if you have the DeDRM-tools set up correctly, there's a huge hole in the walls.

To be honest, the DeDRM-tools and rapidly maturing Calibre between 2010 and 2011 pulled me over the line to try an e-reader again after I bought and sold my first one in 2007.
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