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Old 07-12-2008, 10:59 AM   #61
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if Amazon want to treat me like a second-class customer because I live outside the US, then I don't feel any great need to wait for them to change their minds.
Please... Amazon is not treating you as a second class customer any more than Telestra in Austraila treats me as a second class customer because they can't provide me phone service here in the US or the London Electric company won't provide me electrical service here in Florida.

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Old 07-12-2008, 11:24 AM   #62
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Sadly, however, our American friends have passed a law saying that if we break their DRM we can go to jail for a long time. And as every UK citizen knows, if the US wants us then we will be handed over. But rest assured that I will sign the petition protesting at your extradition.
That is easily said from the comfort of your own Home, God forbid nothing infringes on an individuals rights to do or say whatever they are so inclined to at any given moment. I seriously hope that trying to decide on a Reader is the most traumatic event in your life. I wouldnt want you to suffer any more emotional stress!

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Well after all that, I've ordered a Cybook.
I was originally inclined to wait for a Kindlle but in the end I decided that if Amazon want to treat me like a second-class customer because I live outside the US, then I don't feel any great need to wait for them to change their minds. In fact, as a result, I've reduced my (very considerable) purchases of all kinds from Amazon only to those where there's no alternative source.
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Please... Amazon is not treating you as a second class customer any more than Telestra in Austraila treats me as a second class customer because they can't provide me phone service here in the US or the London Electric company won't provide me electrical service here in Florida.

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I am going to try and keep a civil Hand while typing, However I am about tired of people complaining about U.S. only products, It has been that way since the beginning of commerce Some products are regional that is a fact of life, from car models to electronic gadgets I mean Korea gets some of the best cell phones in the world 2 years before they hit the States if we get them at all. Bottom line if you dont like the selection where you are then by all means Move! Otherwise make do with what you have or accept the limitations of the alternatives Oh and Bob you hit the nail on the head with your response I just included your quote so not to repeat.

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Old 07-13-2008, 12:29 PM   #63
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Please... Amazon is not treating you as a second class customer any more than Telestra in Austraila treats me as a second class customer because they can't provide me phone service here in the US or the London Electric company won't provide me electrical service here in Florida.

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Your point would make some sense if it were not for the fact that that a Kindle will work perfectly well in the UK except for the wireless connection. The only problem is that Amazon refuse to sell me one.
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Old 07-13-2008, 12:51 PM   #64
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That is easily said from the comfort of your own Home, God forbid nothing infringes on an individuals rights to do or say whatever they are so inclined to at any given moment. I seriously hope that trying to decide on a Reader is the most traumatic event in your life. I wouldnt want you to suffer any more emotional stress!
It's not at all clear what your point is. The quote you have extracted was a light-hearted reply to someone who asserted their right to strip DRM from files and change the format. However if you wish to take issue, it is a fact that British citizens can be extradited to the US with very little right of appeal. It is also a fact that your government have refused to ratify the treaty which would grant reciprocal rights to UK courts.

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I am going to try and keep a civil Hand while typing, However I am about tired of people complaining about U.S. only products, It has been that way since the beginning of commerce Some products are regional that is a fact of life, from car models to electronic gadgets I mean Korea gets some of the best cell phones in the world 2 years before they hit the States if we get them at all. Bottom line if you dont like the selection where you are then by all means Move! Otherwise make do with what you have or accept the limitations of the alternatives Oh and Bob you hit the nail on the head with your response I just included your quote so not to repeat.

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Well clearly you failed in your aim to maintain a civil hand but never mind, perhaps it's the habit of command. In any case it's good to hear a member of the US military arguing for the acceptance of geographical limitations - they are more usually found invading other countries.
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Old 07-13-2008, 01:33 PM   #65
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It's not at all clear what your point is. The quote you have extracted was a light-hearted reply to someone who asserted their right to strip DRM from files and change the format. However if you wish to take issue, it is a fact that British citizens can be extradited to the US with very little right of appeal. It is also a fact that your government have refused to ratify the treaty which would grant reciprocal rights to UK courts.



Well clearly you failed in your aim to maintain a civil hand but never mind, perhaps it's the habit of command. In any case it's good to hear a member of the US military arguing for the acceptance of geographical limitations - they are more usually found invading other countries.
Interesting interpretation What does anything I have said have to do with Political issues? I was simply saying Product availability has always been regional. (We are not talking about a necessity here just an indulgence.)

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Old 07-13-2008, 02:34 PM   #66
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Europe really shouldn't protest when their own protectionist trade barriers bite them in the hind quarters. CE directives basically copied existing regulations from elsewhere, many from the US, and then declared that products certified to the pre-existing regulations that the European Union copied are no longer legal to sell in Europe unless the foreign (American) company pays tens of thousands of dollars to have a European certifying authority re-certify something that has already been certified to fully equivalent specs. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.
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Well clearly you failed in your aim to maintain a civil hand but never mind, perhaps it's the habit of command. In any case it's good to hear a member of the US military arguing for the acceptance of geographical limitations - they are more usually found invading other countries.
And good to see you being so civil. Comments like this make me long for an "ignore user" function on this forum.
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Old 07-14-2008, 11:46 AM   #68
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That is easily said from the comfort of your own Home, God forbid nothing infringes on an individuals rights to do or say whatever they are so inclined to at any given moment. I seriously hope that trying to decide on a Reader is the most traumatic event in your life. I wouldnt want you to suffer any more emotional stress!
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So this is not a personal attack, completely unprovoked? Hypocrisy personified.
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