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Part of it is exaggerated paranoia—fear of pirating—but much of it is what the publishers fear will be a loss of sales. They would rather you buy a copy each for each device and format you have, something you wouldn't have to do if you removed the DRM.
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But we could argue over whether it is morally right for them to insist that I buy a second copy of a book just to have a backup or to read it on an new ereader. I don't think it is. They still wouldn't lose a sale because I would not buy a second copy.
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I'm not saying you should have a guilty conscience over breaking the DRM, but I am saying that they have the law on their side, and that can have consequences for scofflaws. Fair or not, they play by the rules of the legal system, and DRM-breakers very likely don't. The fact that they spent reasonably large amounts of money to influence the laws means that they think it would make a difference. It's not about harm, but rather about power. |
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This applies to the kindle too although I don't want to go into any more details in case this discussion gets too close to this sites T&Cs. Either way, if the OP doesn't want to strip DRM right now, they'd just need to check what they need to strip it in the future. The risk of course is that your computer crashes, you may still have the book access but if you don't have a computer authorised to read them and the DRM servers are shut at that point, then you really are out of luck. Last edited by JoeD; 05-24-2013 at 08:27 AM. |
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Same for movies, going vhs to DVD to Bluray are all quality improvements and you should rebuy if you want them. However, is someone is happy with DVD quality and want to just convert that to their phone/tablet/computer they shouldn't need to rebuy imo. If you buy the bluray you should be free to convert that down to any quality you want for any device freely. If you however want to get a 2k/4k/3d version in the future, expect to pay. imho of course ![]() With books, going paper to ebook or between ebook formats should be legal. |
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After I lost those purchases, I made sure that I either bought non-DRM products, or stripped the DRM off to ensure that I would retain the ability to access what I had bought no matter what device I used. |
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Oh, and fjtorres: "Either you're comfortable doing it or you're not. The legal liability issue is a moot point either way." I don't think that word means what you think it means. ![]() |
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If I read the post to which I responded correctly it was a slur about those who break DRM, with the implication that if it's the law it must be right. And if I read your post correctly - forgive me if I don't - you are calling me thoroughly dishonest for breaking DRM because you think DRM is justified by law. The laws enabling a slave owner to rape one of his slaves and sell his child and making it an criminal offence to help a slave to escape were just as much laws as the law governing DRM. But they were unjust immoral laws, and if I had lived at the time I hope I would have had no qualms about breaking them. Would that have made me thoroughly dishonest, do you think? Of course the law on DRM is nowhere near as serious as the slavery laws I've mentioned. But the principle is the same. |
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(Which is also basically what I was objecting to, BTW.) |
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I'm always amazed at the different ways people view 'theft.'
For many, it's wrong to do XYZ, but perfectly OK to to do ABC. A fellow I know thinks nothing of sticking a ream of printer paper into his brief case at work when no one is looking, but is shocked when he sees a homeless man steal a sandwich from a convenience store. How many fudge (stealing from the company) an extra 10-20 minutes at lunchtime a couple of times a week, yet would never in a million years think of stealing money out of the petty cash drawer (the same 'stealing from the company.) It always reminds me of the scene in 'Casablanca' where Rick is talking with Ugarte, Ugarte saying that Rick despises him, rationalizing that he performs a service for the people at a lower rate than the other crooks, and Rick responds with; "I don't mind a parasite. I object to a cut-rate one." We all have our own rationalizations for the petty criminal acts we do, convincing ourselves we aren't breaking any 'real' laws. How many pens and pencils do you have at home that came from work? Is that really costing your company anything? If you work for a major multi-national, and every employee took home one cheap pen a week for a year, do you have any idea how many thousands of dollars that would add up to?!? Let's face facts. Diogenes is still searching for his honest man. Stitchawl |
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Do you really believe in the sort of blind, unthinking absolutism you just spouted?
You can use extreme fringe cases to illustrate a point, but to suggest all cases ACTUALLY are the same, is silly. We might forgive and allow the hungry man's taking a sandwich, that does not mean we take the same attitude when he kills some one to get the sandwich. That would be as dumb as equating an extra ten minutes at lunch with stealing from the cash drawer. Last edited by ApK; 05-25-2013 at 10:33 AM. |
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