A Dance with Dragons - $20 dollars - Page 5

wyndslash · 07-19-2011, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Some parts are great. I can't deny it. But don't let anyone convince you that there's going to be 7, 8, or 9 doorstopper-sized books worth of great. There's more "milking" going on in this series than goes on at a dairy-farm. Martin's just better at keeping that milk from curdling than most other practitioners.

i read that there was a lot of rape going on, and i just can't stomach that, fantasy or no. xP

cfrock · 07-19-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wyndslash

i read that there was a lot of rape going on, and i just can't stomach that, fantasy or no. xP

The series is gritty, no doubt. However, the descriptions of the sex in particular are not overly graphic.

kindlekitten · 07-19-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wyndslash

i read that there was a lot of rape going on, and i just can't stomach that, fantasy or no. xP

ummmmm... no

ProfCrash · 07-19-2011, 10:34 AM

I think that the authors who are building these massive series have figured out that they can make more money by extending the series. I don't buy for a second that GRRM could not have finished this series in a timely fashion and with far fewer books if he wanted to. His publisher and he realized that people will drool over the release of the next book and buy whatever he puts out and so they are milking it.

I have developed more respect for the Jim Butcher's of the world who put out a good product on a regular basis and stick to their deadlines. While Dresden is not as complex as GRRM world it is still a good read and I can rely on the author and the Publisher to get it out on a regular basis. I am comfortable investing in Butcher.

I don't mind gritty. I like gritty. I will probably end up reading the rest of this series but I am not buying any more of his books as long as he is playing games and extending deadlines and the series for something that strikes me as far less than artistic in nature.

More likely then not I will borrow the book from a friend when they are done and not buy it. GRRM hacked me off 5 years ago and has done little to win me back.

thinkpad · 07-19-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

More likely then not I will borrow the book from a friend when they are done and not buy it. GRRM hacked me off 5 years ago and has done little to win me back.

I think that's the danger an author faces when waiting too long with the next release. People will have moved on to something else and will probably not be in a hurry to get back.

ProfCrash · 07-19-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkpadx

I think that's the danger an author faces when waiting too long with the next release. People will have moved on to something else and will probably not be in a hurry to get back.

GRRM is big enough that his book will do well without me and the few folks like me. Which is the way that the market is suppose to work. He did a good enough job with the first bunch of books and enough people are enjoying the HBO series that he can get away with taking forever in putting out books. In many ways he has earned that privlage. He knows that the die hard fans will be waiting no matter what.

bjones6416 · 07-19-2011, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

. He knows that the die hard fans will be waiting no matter what.

Yep, that's me.

I LOVE massively long books. I've re-read the entire GRRM series TWICE waiting on this book, and actually enjoyed it the most the last time around. There is a lot of detail in there but he manages to keep the threads connected somehow and I had a few AHA! moments this time through. Knowing what was coming changed my whole perception of a lot of scenes.

whitearrow · 07-20-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wyndslash

i read that there was a lot of rape going on

I would disagree with that.

There are references to rape (and slavery, and torture, and other forms of medieval unpleasantness), but they are not graphic, for the most part, and never salacious. And you're talking about a series that is thousands of pages long at this point.

Barcey · 07-27-2011, 06:57 AM

FYI for people that were waiting for it in the library. It was available in my local library last night. I lucked out because there wasn't a waiting list and I was able to sign it out right away.

HarryT · 07-27-2011, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Barcey

FYI for people that were waiting for it in the library. It was available in my local library last night. I lucked out because there wasn't a waiting list and I was able to sign it out right away.

That sounds more as though you were in luck than out of luck!

ProfCrash · 07-27-2011, 08:02 AM

Lucked out = in luck, at least that is how I read it.

DiapDealer · 07-27-2011, 08:21 AM

Another colloquialism near miss!

Pig out
Geek out
Veg out
Luck out

tubemonkey · 07-27-2011, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

That sounds more as though you were in luck than out of luck!

You Brits have the opposite meaning.

HarryT · 07-27-2011, 08:22 AM

So "luck out" doesn't mean "out of luck", but the opposite? That seems a little non-intuitive

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tubemonkey · 07-27-2011, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

So "luck out" doesn't mean "out of luck", but the opposite? That seems a little non-intuitive

.

Yep; it means you got lucky. I'm still not used to windscreen, bonnet, and boot. Those aren't car parts to me.

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07-19-2011, 10:34 AM	#64
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	I think that the authors who are building these massive series have figured out that they can make more money by extending the series. I don't buy for a second that GRRM could not have finished this series in a timely fashion and with far fewer books if he wanted to. His publisher and he realized that people will drool over the release of the next book and buy whatever he puts out and so they are milking it. I have developed more respect for the Jim Butcher's of the world who put out a good product on a regular basis and stick to their deadlines. While Dresden is not as complex as GRRM world it is still a good read and I can rely on the author and the Publisher to get it out on a regular basis. I am comfortable investing in Butcher. I don't mind gritty. I like gritty. I will probably end up reading the rest of this series but I am not buying any more of his books as long as he is playing games and extending deadlines and the series for something that strikes me as far less than artistic in nature. More likely then not I will borrow the book from a friend when they are done and not buy it. GRRM hacked me off 5 years ago and has done little to win me back.

07-27-2011, 06:57 AM	#69
Barcey Wizard Posts: 1,531 Karma: 8059866 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Device: Kobo H2O / Aura HD / Glo / iPad3	FYI for people that were waiting for it in the library. It was available in my local library last night. I lucked out because there wasn't a waiting list and I was able to sign it out right away.

07-27-2011, 08:02 AM	#71
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	Lucked out = in luck, at least that is how I read it.

07-27-2011, 08:21 AM	#72
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,599 Karma: 204624552 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	Another colloquialism near miss! Pig out Geek out Veg out Luck out

07-27-2011, 08:22 AM	#74
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,549 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	So "luck out" doesn't mean "out of luck", but the opposite? That seems a little non-intuitive .

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