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KQED (SF NPR station) interviewed one of the CA Tax Commissioners yesterday. She was of the opinion (apparently shared by the sponsors of the law) that the new law required online retailers to collect taxes, regardless of whether affiliates program exists here. She said she 'hoped they would' (don't think she was under any illusions about this). Amazon has offices and employees in CA, though they are not storefronts.
Of course whether or not out of state retailers are legally required to collect the tax, CA residents are legally obligated to pay them. Amazon is certainly not the only online retailer that doesn't collect sales taxes, I would be hard pressed to name one that does (when they don't have CA B&M stores). Last edited by tomsem; 07-01-2011 at 08:17 PM. |
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Places like Amazon and Overstock are affecting the "revenue" of states like California and New York, so it won't be too long before these states' representatives in Congress pass a federal "Sales Tax Fairness and Simplification Act." Maybe they will limit it to businesses with over a million dollars in out of state sales so that it won't effect smaller businesses, but either way I bet it's coming. |
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If California suceeded this time around it would be truly catastrophic for them. A9 and Lab126 would leave California and so would hundreds of other tech firms that are started by venture capital from firms that don't want to collect sales tax -- not to mention all the tech firms that don't get funded in the first place. If Amazon funding tech firms like A9 and Lab126 is deemed to provide a nexus then California could expect to see VC dry up overnight. Not too smart. |
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I just saw the other day that some cities in Louisiana, spent thousand of dollars from BP money on buying some iPads! Yeah, the money that should be for cleaning up the beaches from oil spill. And I am not saying the oil disaster was good, but I do not believe USA or State government is reinvesting any tax or private sector money, in a proper way. So now we do have a company that is very successful and is making millions because a great business model. Why instead of forcing taxes to Amazon and similar companies, we don't stimulate those kind of business providing exemptions to local warehouses; those places still need people to operate, that will generate state's revenue and employment. I'm disgusted with all the tax stuff! Regardless of the political party. I see no improvement at all. |
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However, the problem would be a lot less severe if sales taxes weren't so high - when I was a kid, most sales taxes were in the 3-5% range, with the exception of states that did not have income taxes. Now my state's sales tax is 7%, but in some cities or parts of cities, it's 8% - and it's 9 or just a little over in parts of Chicago. Those kinds of sales taxes start to feel illegitimate, and I think that's part of why there is so much resistance to a national sales tax equalization law. |
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You don't have to prove a lack of income, either; tax forms don't say "we assume you made a million dollars last year; please provide proof of how much less than a million you made." |
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I know this wont be a very popular opinion but here it is.
All NEW things bought on the internet should be taxed according to the state taxes they are shipped to. There is billions of dollars of commerce moving through this country that is not getting taxed. Its getting pretty bad out there. People are always buying online to save money this is definitely hurting local economies. Especially in the retail sectors. Then people ask where did all the jobs go. Not everyone wants to work for UPS or Fedex. I'm also sick of people trying to say the government is wasting my money so I should not have to pay. In case you havent noticed government employees are taking huge paycuts or getting laid off. Government is basically going to start balancing their budgets on the backs of their employees. So basically these employees are paying your taxes through the loss of their jobs. Is it really so terrible to pay 6-10% tax on luxury items to help the city or state you live in? No disrespect to anybody on this forum this is just the way I feel about it. |
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NO -- countries "fall apart" because they spend too much of what doesn't belong to them in the first place!!
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I was an Amazon affliate until yesterday (when they canceled me for being in California). Nobody likes taxes, but it seems to me that we should have a level playing field... if you sell to California residents, you pay sales taxes. I like Amazon and think they're a well-run company with a lot going for them. That said, I think they built themselves largely on the affliate program and it's a shame that, now that they're dominant in the eCommerce arena, they are abandoning their affliates.
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