Clovis Killer Discovery

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by ardeegee

Feel free to use your ignore list, Kenny.

See above.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by wodin

Yes and the same article says:


The more I read, the more it becomes evident that the whole "Clovis first" hypothesis becomes conjecture built upon conjecture.

Yes see the link I posted and the links in the "Bering Land Bridge" thread I started.

[ardeegee]

Originally Posted by kennyc

GO AWAY. SHOUTING DOESN'T MAKE SOMETHING TRUE. YOU ARE CONFUSED. UNWILLING TO ADMIT THAT YOU MIGHT BE WRONG.

I'm utterly clear on the scientific consensus on the extent of glaciation during the Pleistocene. All that is confusing is that someone who attempts to be a rational thinker is clinging to an incorrect idea, apparently for no other reason than having a d**k-measuring contest. You are acting like a creationist here.

If you have data that disproves the accepted maps of glacial extents during the Pleistocene, I'm sure that the geologists would love to hear from you.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/glaciation.html

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/paleo/peltice.pl

http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/lemk...tribution.html (section D)

No matter how much you plug your fingers in your ears and go la-la-la, I will continue to be not wrong on this.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by ardeegee

I'm utterly clear on the scientific consensus on the extent of glaciation during the Pleistocene. All that is confusing is that someone who attempts to be a rational thinker is clinging to an incorrect idea, apparently for no other reason than having a d**k-measuring contest. You are acting like a creationist here.

If you have data that disproves the accepted maps of glacial extents during the Pleistocene, I'm sure that the geologists would love to hear from you.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/glaciation.html

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/paleo/peltice.pl

http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/lemk...tribution.html (section D)

No matter how much you plug your fingers in your ears and go la-la-la, I will continue to be not wrong on this.

Feel free to believe what you like, you clearly do. The fact is that their is significant contraversy both about clovis (which I remind you is the topic under discussion) and about the Bering land bridge as well. You clearly believe you know exactly what happened, but you don't.

See, you really do have a lot to learn as your behavior here indicates. Please work on it.

P.S. Please note that none of your maps even display the area under discussion (the Bering Land Bridge) What the hell kind of evidence do you that that is? And maps (as I've said) mean nothing. The closest thing that means anything might be the ocean floor samples of the area under discussion and the link I posted clearly indicates controversy wrt that.

[ardeegee]

Originally Posted by kennyc

P.S. Please note that none of your maps even display the area under discussion (the Bering Land Bridge)

Go to this link from above: http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/lemk...tribution.html

Scroll down to part "D." Look at the map sourced from "Natural Resources Canada." Look in the upper left. That yellow area covering the eastern part of Siberia and the western part of Alaska is Beringia, otherwise known as the Bering land bridge. The other maps also cover the area, even though they show only modern coastlines.

[kennyc]

Ah, one of them shows that maybe the glacier wasn't there. What do you think about everyone (yes scientists - see the links I posted) that don't agree with your pet theory. Again I remind you the topic under discussion is the Clovis people and their arrival when and how. If you want to discuss hypothetical glaciers and land bridges please feel free to do so in the other thread.

[ardeegee]

Taking it to the other thread.

[GeoffC]

Originally Posted by wodin

Geoff, I don't think you understand. During the ice age, anywhere north of the current Canadian US border, THERE WAS NO SUMMER! No grass or trees and no bare soil; just ice! And in most places that was literally miles deep.

It would be like migrating across the Greenland ice cap or Antartica today. Doable? Maybe with modern equipment, but much easier to go around ... in a boat.

I do understand, but the original article that Kenny posted made reference to the use of the land bridge, and I was making a case for its use by travellers.

The Ice Age reference has crept in since.