Amazon is talking out both sides of its [edited] - Page 5

kindlekitten · 12-17-2010, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Grimm

I have no idea but it's a hell of a question, isn't it?

sheds a whole new light on The Metamorphosis doesn't it?

jbcohen · 12-17-2010, 08:34 AM

More than that Mrs Josephs that is a rather serious breach of your personal computer security. Amazon should not be able to remove anything from any kindle once it gets into your hands. Here is what I would recommend that you do in order to ensure the security of your Kindle: Never use wifi, the kindle has shown that it has no security when you use the wifi. Simply obtain your books from Amazon and download them to your PC then upload them from your PC to your Kindle, your PCs firewall will prevent Amazon from reaching into your kindle at all. Also look at your PCs firewall and look at who is permitted past the firewall, you should be able to name the software that can get through your firewall off the top of your head and should be able to count them on the fingers of one hand. The only software that can get through my firewall are: Mc Affee Total Protection and Adobe Acrobat, if I don't let Total Protection through then the software will not be able to keep my protection up to date and Acrobat does upgrades on ocasion, although I might remove them. You should be able to recognize all of the software packages on that list and Amazon should not be on the list at any time.

DiapDealer · 12-17-2010, 08:49 AM

You 'ole FUD-dy duddy, you.

kindlekitten · 12-17-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jbcohen

More than that Mrs Josephs that is a rather serious breach of your personal computer security. Amazon should not be able to remove anything from any kindle once it gets into your hands. Here is what I would recommend that you do in order to ensure the security of your Kindle: Never use wifi, the kindle has shown that it has no security when you use the wifi. Simply obtain your books from Amazon and download them to your PC then upload them from your PC to your Kindle, your PCs firewall will prevent Amazon from reaching into your kindle at all. Also look at your PCs firewall and look at who is permitted past the firewall, you should be able to name the software that can get through your firewall off the top of your head and should be able to count them on the fingers of one hand. The only software that can get through my firewall are: Mc Affee Total Protection and Adobe Acrobat, if I don't let Total Protection through then the software will not be able to keep my protection up to date and Acrobat does upgrades on ocasion, although I might remove them. You should be able to recognize all of the software packages on that list and Amazon should not be on the list at any time.

oh puhhhlease DO keep up!!! these were removed from archives, not kindles. back away from the dead horse

Andrew H. · 12-17-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MaggieScratch

Well, yes, but apparently it was a law of the Church. When you marry, your spouse's family becomes your family. Apparently that was interpreted that if you married your late spouse's sibling, that was incest, because it was like you married your own sibling.

Yes, dumb law.

But you were allowed to marry your first cousin.

In my state, it's not incest to have sexual relations with your first cousin, but you're still not allowed to marry him/her. And incest only applies to biological relations.

screwballl · 12-17-2010, 11:28 AM

incest = family relation of any kind, biological or not. This goes for adopted family members, step-siblings or family by marriage (even step-cousins) are all off limits. there is no other way to twist it. Just because nature may not have problems, doesn't make it right.

and jbcohen you are so far off base, just go play with your $30 cheap Vietnamese junk reader and let the rest of us have educated conversations.

mr ploppy · 12-17-2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jbcohen

Here is what I would recommend that you do in order to ensure the security of your Kindle: Never use wifi, the kindle has shown that it has no security when you use the wifi.

Someone said in another thread that Amazon can turn the Wifi on remotely in order to push updated firmware at them.

Richey79 · 12-17-2010, 11:35 AM

Just be thankful she wasn't reading Hamlet.

Get thee all to a nunnery.

Also, I strongly recommend taking the strongest precautions to protect your PC and electronic devices from the nasty people out there:

carld · 12-17-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MrsJoseph

What makes me very angry is that Amazon removes items from the Kindle whenever it wants to.

No they don't.

screwballl · 12-17-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mr ploppy

Someone said in another thread that Amazon can turn the Wifi on remotely in order to push updated firmware at them.

false!

The wifi/3G is on, or off. If it is off, the device cannot automatically turn it on, just as they cannot delete, remove or otherwise tamper with the content on the Kindle itself, only the archive on their own website, which is hosted on their server.

Also updated firmware is not automatic, it is manual update only, at least with the Kindle 1 and 2, not sure about the 3.

jbcohen · 12-17-2010, 11:55 AM

Also scared by Amazon's ability to turn on wifi by remote and update firmware. Not that this is a bad thing, it means that anyone with sufficent knowledge can turn on your wifi, insert a virus and leave without your knowing it.

Kali Yuga · 12-17-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The problem is the moderators are going too far here and they are not even saying why they are going too far. We should not be treated like children.

Perhaps you should have specified that you were talking about donkeys rather than derrières?

screwballl · 12-17-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jbcohen

Also scared by Amazon's ability to turn on wifi by remote and update firmware. Not that this is a bad thing, it means that anyone with sufficent knowledge can turn on your wifi, insert a virus and leave without your knowing it.

Hey, I found your picture online!!!

karunaji · 12-17-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by screwballl

Just because nature may not have problems, doesn't make it right.

And nature will give you problems only when sex is used for making children. And even then the risks actually are very dependent on genetics of persons involved. If one party is sterile or adequate protection is used, there are no biological risks at all.

Furthermore, today we can analyze the genes and discover that some pairs will produce only deformed offsprings. So, if they have sex, is it incestuous?

Basically, nowadays prohibitions against incest when conception is not possible is largely a cultural thing. Slightly more out of line than gay sex but who knows what we will think about these things in future.

mr ploppy · 12-17-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by screwballl

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr ploppy
Someone said in another thread that Amazon can turn the Wifi on remotely in order to push updated firmware at them.

false!

.

Unfalse!
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12-17-2010, 08:34 AM	#62
jbcohen Wizard Posts: 3,031 Karma: 11196738 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Where am I? Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature edition and a Samsung S24 Ultra	More than that Mrs Josephs that is a rather serious breach of your personal computer security. Amazon should not be able to remove anything from any kindle once it gets into your hands. Here is what I would recommend that you do in order to ensure the security of your Kindle: Never use wifi, the kindle has shown that it has no security when you use the wifi. Simply obtain your books from Amazon and download them to your PC then upload them from your PC to your Kindle, your PCs firewall will prevent Amazon from reaching into your kindle at all. Also look at your PCs firewall and look at who is permitted past the firewall, you should be able to name the software that can get through your firewall off the top of your head and should be able to count them on the fingers of one hand. The only software that can get through my firewall are: Mc Affee Total Protection and Adobe Acrobat, if I don't let Total Protection through then the software will not be able to keep my protection up to date and Acrobat does upgrades on ocasion, although I might remove them. You should be able to recognize all of the software packages on that list and Amazon should not be on the list at any time.

12-17-2010, 08:49 AM	#63
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,507 Karma: 204127028 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	You 'ole FUD-dy duddy, you.

12-17-2010, 11:28 AM	#66
screwballl NewKindler Posts: 504 Karma: 1865773 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NWFL Device: Kindle3 Wifi	incest = family relation of any kind, biological or not. This goes for adopted family members, step-siblings or family by marriage (even step-cousins) are all off limits. there is no other way to twist it. Just because nature may not have problems, doesn't make it right. and jbcohen you are so far off base, just go play with your $30 cheap Vietnamese junk reader and let the rest of us have educated conversations.

12-17-2010, 11:35 AM	#68
Richey79 mrkrgnao Posts: 241 Karma: 237248 Join Date: May 2010 Device: PRS650, K3 Wireless, Galaxy S3, iPad 3.	Just be thankful she wasn't reading Hamlet. Get thee all to a nunnery. Also, I strongly recommend taking the strongest precautions to protect your PC and electronic devices from the nasty people out there:

12-17-2010, 11:55 AM	#71
jbcohen Wizard Posts: 3,031 Karma: 11196738 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Where am I? Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature edition and a Samsung S24 Ultra	Also scared by Amazon's ability to turn on wifi by remote and update firmware. Not that this is a bad thing, it means that anyone with sufficent knowledge can turn on your wifi, insert a virus and leave without your knowing it.

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