|  12-11-2010, 08:53 PM | #61 | 
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			Please, everyone, can we just agree to ignore erictoma? He trolls for any thread mentioning Kindles, then posts uninformed opinions. Don't respond to him, maybe he'll go away
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|  12-11-2010, 08:56 PM | #62 | |
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|  12-11-2010, 09:48 PM | #64 | |
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|  12-11-2010, 10:38 PM | #65 | ||
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,423 Karma: 52734361 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kindle Fire, Kindle Paperwhite, AGPTek Bluetooth Clip | Quote: 
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 As far as removing DRM and converting, assuming one is not deterred by any legal or moral issues (especially in regard to library books), I can respond in kind--I can do that to Amazon books too, so that negates the supposed advantage of Amazon's greater inventory. Again, I'm happy that Kindle owners are happy. But for all practical purposes, you are locked in to Amazon. Why deny it? | ||
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|  12-11-2010, 10:45 PM | #66 | |
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   What you have copied and past were the ebooks NOT available in the alternative mobi bookstore links provided by some kindle owner here in this thread. Enjoy reading  PS : I see you have mixed "Prostate Health in 90 Days" by joseph Mercola with this list. This title doesn't exist even in amazon store itself. How can you claim it is cheaper in amazon store? Last edited by erictoma; 12-11-2010 at 10:56 PM. | |
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|  12-11-2010, 10:47 PM | #67 | 
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|  12-11-2010, 11:00 PM | #68 | 
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|  12-11-2010, 11:11 PM | #69 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 1,262 Karma: 2979086 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle 4, iPad Mini/Retina | Quote: 
 I made up the part about Svengali, but not the salad. Svengali isn't a language. | |
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|  12-12-2010, 04:20 AM | #70 | |
| Wizard            Posts: 4,338 Karma: 4000000 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Paris Device: Cybooks; Sony PRS-T1 | Quote: 
 That quite like iTunes, they are proposing aac, i need mp3. no buy. Hopefully, the publishers will come to their senses, like the music industry did, and we'll see drm free. Though my main annoyance right now is geo restrictions. Yeah, i could convert and strip the drm, but, haven't yet found a book i wanted that was on amazon, and not somewhere else. Right now, the only store that don't geo-restrict me too much (in english), is amazon. But I will go to borders, that provide me with the right format. Even if they geo restrict me, and are more expensive. The striping drm / converting / fixing being the most time consuming option, it will be only as a last resort. And, the amazon app don't work on linux, so restart on windows needed... | |
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|  12-12-2010, 09:52 AM | #71 | 
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|  12-12-2010, 09:53 AM | #72 | |
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|  12-12-2010, 02:47 PM | #73 | 
| Padawan Learner            Posts: 243 Karma: 1085815 Join Date: May 2009 Location: www.OutlawGalaxy.com, Foothills of NY's Adirondack mountains Device: My PC...using Puppy Linux (FBReader, Calibre, Kindle Cloud Reader, | 
			
			Near as I can tell, the anti-Kindle faction is arguing that somehow Amazon and Kindle are somehow more restrictive than the Epub options (B&N, Kobo,Sony, Apple)...and that appears to be simply untrue.  While you can (in theory) buy epub books from different vendors, the varying DRM standards and agency pricing model means that you still may not be able to read them (despite them all being in Epub, "The universal ebook format!") and there is no pricing competition. The problem comes back to DRM; without DRM, format doesn't really matter all that much. But also, with the advent of the Google Ebook store and Amazon's "Kindle for the Web" DRM is rendered useless because you can make a backup copy of your book by reading on your browser and taking a screen capture image of each page. Cumbersome, time intensive, a pain...well, sure. But you can still unlock your books and keep a permanent copy in case the big bad Amazon ever goes away. (Never mind that there are numerous non-Amazon sites where you can buy and read Mobi/Kindle format books, Baen and Smashwords being the two examples that immediately spring to mind. And as for not being able to find specific books on some sites, such as Smashwords, that's something to take up with the publisher and author, not the ebook vendor. After all, the PUBLISHER is the one that decides which vendors to offer their books to, not the ebook store.) | 
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|  12-12-2010, 03:59 PM | #74 | |
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 7,423 Karma: 52734361 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Kindle Fire, Kindle Paperwhite, AGPTek Bluetooth Clip | Quote: 
 I am anti-Apple, so I don't know anything about how all the iStuff works. I don't understand how my ability to purchase from anywhere except Amazon, and your inability to purchase from BN, Sony, Borders, and Kobo (or to borrow library books) makes it "simply untrue" that your Kindle is more restricted than my epub-reading device. Since Random House and its subsidiaries is still non-Agency, I CAN do price comparisons. Let's see: I recently spent $31.85 at Kobo for three books: The Black Lizard Big Book of Pulp Fiction: $10.87 (non-Agency, $14.49 without a coupon) KINDLE PRICE: $14.75 The Master of Blacktower: $7.99 (Agency) KINDLE PRICE: $7.99 The Best of Everything: $12.99 (Agency) KINDLE PRICE: $12.99 Because of a special promotion offering a free-book coupon for a $30 purchase, I then was able to get: The Complete Tudors: Nine Historical Novels (non-Agency, $74.09 at Kobo) KINDLE PRICE: $74.09 So--if I'd bought from Amazon, I would have spent $109.82, as opposed to $31.85. Tell me again how there's no price advantage to being able to shop around for epubs? | |
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|  12-13-2010, 11:21 AM | #75 | |
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