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Old 12-11-2010, 08:53 PM   #61
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Please, everyone, can we just agree to ignore erictoma? He trolls for any thread mentioning Kindles, then posts uninformed opinions. Don't respond to him, maybe he'll go away
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You really have a thing for this doctor.

Perhaps you are related, or pushing his writings for some other reason?

If a doctor has time for publishing so many books, perhaps his patients aren't getting the time they need.
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Can you find in your useless sites :
"caffeine blues" eBook by Stephen Chernisk in your websites ? or "The Metabolic Plan: Stay Younger Longer" or may be "The Dhea Breakthrough" ???
can you find the best seller "Failure Is Not An Option" by the giant Gene Kranz in your smart websites ?
Even Dr Joseph Mercola books are not available wow !
"Dark Deception"
"Generation XL"
"The No-Grain Diet "
Can you find the other Dr Joseph Mercola's ebooks ?

1- Prostatitis: The 60-Day Cure - eBook 21.95 US $

2 -Take Control of your Health eBook 19.97 US $

3-Prostate Health in 90 Days - eBook 16.97 US $
Greetings. Not sure if this is helpful, but if you're looking for those in that format, it appears that Take Control of Your Health, The No Grain Diet, Prostate Health in 90 Days, The Metabolic Plan: Stay Younger Longer, and Generation XL are sold as Kindle books on Amazon(US). Also the prices there were a bit lower than what you listed.
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If you are in the US then there really is no "shopping around" because of the Agency 5 price fixing agreement. The publisher sets the price and the agent, used to be the retailer, cannot sell for less than that price. There are still publishers that don't set the price and those can be discounted by the retailer.
I specifically said I could shop around for NON-Agency books, and noted that Kobo was especially a great place to shop because of the coupons, which I've used on a multitude of Random House books. You can't buy from Kobo without manipulating the files.

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I love my Kindle not just because of the Kindle store but because the only time I've had to connect it to my PC was when I loaded the screensaver hack. I can send all my books and periodical content wirelessly at no additional cost. To me that's more important than ePub. If I want it's trivial to remove DRM and convert.
Connectivity isn't the issue. This thread was discussing formats.

As far as removing DRM and converting, assuming one is not deterred by any legal or moral issues (especially in regard to library books), I can respond in kind--I can do that to Amazon books too, so that negates the supposed advantage of Amazon's greater inventory.

Again, I'm happy that Kindle owners are happy. But for all practical purposes, you are locked in to Amazon. Why deny it?
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Greetings. Not sure if this is helpful, but if you're looking for those in that format, it appears that Take Control of Your Health, The No Grain Diet, Prostate Health in 90 Days, The Metabolic Plan: Stay Younger Longer, and Generation XL are sold as Kindle books on Amazon(US). Also the prices there were a bit lower than what you listed.
You did not read well this thread I see
What you have copied and past were the ebooks NOT available in the alternative mobi bookstore links provided by some kindle owner here in this thread.
Enjoy reading
PS : I see you have mixed "Prostate Health in 90 Days" by joseph Mercola with this list.
This title doesn't exist even in amazon store itself. How can you claim it is cheaper in amazon store?

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Again, I'm happy that Kindle owners are happy. But for all practical purposes, you are locked in to Amazon. Why deny it?
because most of them are working for amazon.
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because most of them are working for amazon.
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What you have copied and past were the ebooks NOT available in the alternative mobi bookstore links provided by some kindle owner here in this thread.
After I posted that I started to realize that you just meant the alternate sites. My native language is Svengali and I sometimes miss things in English. I decided to eat a salad instead of editing my post.

I made up the part about Svengali, but not the salad. Svengali isn't a language.
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Is it Amazon's fault that other bookstores have chosen to use Adobe DRM?
No. But it is amazon fault not to have moved to ePub when (almost) everyone else did.
That quite like iTunes, they are proposing aac, i need mp3. no buy.
Hopefully, the publishers will come to their senses, like the music industry did, and we'll see drm free. Though my main annoyance right now is geo restrictions.

Yeah, i could convert and strip the drm, but, haven't yet found a book i wanted that was on amazon, and not somewhere else.
Right now, the only store that don't geo-restrict me too much (in english), is amazon. But I will go to borders, that provide me with the right format. Even if they geo restrict me, and are more expensive. The striping drm / converting / fixing being the most time consuming option, it will be only as a last resort.
And, the amazon app don't work on linux, so restart on windows needed...
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I remind again there are thousands of titles missing in kindle store.
You never did point out where these eBooks are available elsewhere. And really, nobody cares. You picked books nobody else cares about. So why not pick books we might actually care about?
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can you find those titles ?? in your kindle store?

Dark Deception: Discover the Truths About the Benefits of Sunlight Exposure
Written by Dr Joseph Mercola, Joseph Herman, Jeffry

Can you find the other Dr Joseph Mercola's ebooks ?

1- Prostatitis: The 60-Day Cure - eBook 21.95 US $

2 -Take Control of your Health eBook 19.97 US $

3-Prostate Health in 90 Days - eBook 16.97 US $

No links so even he cannot find them.
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Near as I can tell, the anti-Kindle faction is arguing that somehow Amazon and Kindle are somehow more restrictive than the Epub options (B&N, Kobo,Sony, Apple)...and that appears to be simply untrue.

While you can (in theory) buy epub books from different vendors, the varying DRM standards and agency pricing model means that you still may not be able to read them (despite them all being in Epub, "The universal ebook format!") and there is no pricing competition.

The problem comes back to DRM; without DRM, format doesn't really matter all that much.

But also, with the advent of the Google Ebook store and Amazon's "Kindle for the Web" DRM is rendered useless because you can make a backup copy of your book by reading on your browser and taking a screen capture image of each page.

Cumbersome, time intensive, a pain...well, sure. But you can still unlock your books and keep a permanent copy in case the big bad Amazon ever goes away.

(Never mind that there are numerous non-Amazon sites where you can buy and read Mobi/Kindle format books, Baen and Smashwords being the two examples that immediately spring to mind. And as for not being able to find specific books on some sites, such as Smashwords, that's something to take up with the publisher and author, not the ebook vendor. After all, the PUBLISHER is the one that decides which vendors to offer their books to, not the ebook store.)
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Near as I can tell, the anti-Kindle faction is arguing that somehow Amazon and Kindle are somehow more restrictive than the Epub options (B&N, Kobo,Sony, Apple)...and that appears to be simply untrue.

While you can (in theory) buy epub books from different vendors, the varying DRM standards and agency pricing model means that you still may not be able to read them (despite them all being in Epub, "The universal ebook format!") and there is no pricing competition.
I'm not anti-Kindle.

I am anti-Apple, so I don't know anything about how all the iStuff works.

I don't understand how my ability to purchase from anywhere except Amazon, and your inability to purchase from BN, Sony, Borders, and Kobo (or to borrow library books) makes it "simply untrue" that your Kindle is more restricted than my epub-reading device.

Since Random House and its subsidiaries is still non-Agency, I CAN do price comparisons.

Let's see: I recently spent $31.85 at Kobo for three books:

The Black Lizard Big Book of Pulp Fiction: $10.87 (non-Agency, $14.49 without a coupon) KINDLE PRICE: $14.75
The Master of Blacktower: $7.99 (Agency) KINDLE PRICE: $7.99
The Best of Everything: $12.99 (Agency) KINDLE PRICE: $12.99

Because of a special promotion offering a free-book coupon for a $30 purchase, I then was able to get:

The Complete Tudors: Nine Historical Novels (non-Agency, $74.09 at Kobo) KINDLE PRICE: $74.09

So--if I'd bought from Amazon, I would have spent $109.82, as opposed to $31.85. Tell me again how there's no price advantage to being able to shop around for epubs?
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The Black Lizard Big Book of Pulp Fiction: $10.87 (non-Agency, $14.49 without a coupon) KINDLE PRICE: $14.75
The Master of Blacktower: $7.99 (Agency) KINDLE PRICE: $7.99
The Best of Everything: $12.99 (Agency) KINDLE PRICE: $12.99

Because of a special promotion offering a free-book coupon for a $30 purchase, I then was able to get:

The Complete Tudors: Nine Historical Novels (non-Agency, $74.09 at Kobo) KINDLE PRICE: $74.09
OK, THAT was some pretty good eBook shopping. How does one find out about those coupons?
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