what is Sony thinking? - Page 5

NatCh · 05-05-2007, 09:18 AM

I finally realized that I was going to buy it (and soon), so that broke the choice down for me to two options: 1) pay $26 for a hardback that I have no place to store, and 2) pay $18 for an e-book that I could store, was the format I'd rather read, and which just might encourage Tor to pull out that stick (you know from where) they seem to have about e-books.

Once I thought about it in those terms, it was a pretty easy choice.

Xenophon · 05-05-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

The solution to the problem is to purchase LIT format files. Then use CLIT to strip the DRM. Load it into Book Designer and you can then write out other formats as needed. If I have to pay for an ebook, I'll pay for lit format. And because I did, the ebooks I have purchased pre-sony I can read in my Sony.

Ah, but the 'Load it into Book Designer' step doesn't work for us non-Wintel-using folks.

Of course, all the files I purchased from Baen work just fine on the Reader -- even those I purchased 4 years before I bought the Sony Reader.

Xenophon

HarryT · 05-05-2007, 11:22 AM

True. Nice thing about being able to convert to LRF is that you get the pictures that way - lots of Baen books have maps in them. Unfortunately you lose those if you use the RTF version directly on the Reader.

Xenophon · 05-05-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

True. Nice thing about being able to convert to LRF is that you get the pictures that way - lots of Baen books have maps in them. Unfortunately you lose those if you use the RTF version directly on the Reader.

Yes. But see the "html2lrf released - HTML to LRF converter" thread for a solution to that problem.

Kovid should have it built into the converter RSN.

UncleDuke · 05-07-2007, 10:02 AM

sony was thinking that they could just make a reader and everyone would buy it 'cause it had the sony name on it. fat chance since they p****ed off a lot of their market with that root kit thing on the cds. then there was the minidisk bomb in the us and some are still mad about betamaxes.

HarryT · 05-07-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by UncleDuke

some are still mad about betamaxes.

To be fair, betamax was technically superior to VHS - it gave a much better picture quality. Sony can hardly be held to blame for the fact that VHS was the eventual "winner" in the market, can they?

UncleDuke · 05-07-2007, 10:15 AM

yes, they failed to market it and price it correctly. they acted as if just because it was a sony it would sell for more than a vhs. their fees to other companies were higher than vhs and the movie studios did not like making two versions of the same film. back then it cost a lot more to make a copy than it costs now for a dvd. so yes, sony is the reason that betamax failed. and it was a better picture quality.

JSWolf · 05-07-2007, 05:23 PM

The reason VHS beat Betamax is because there was more porn available on VHS then Betamax. Nothing to do with which was better or marketed better. It all came down to porn.

dhbailey · 05-07-2007, 07:13 PM

Well, porn plus many of the main-stream movie studios and distributors were coaxed into bringing out all their major pictures on VHS.

Content is king -- whichever technology has the content the public wants will win.

Which is why Sony better work harder to negotiate book deals with more publishers and authors.

Steven Lyle Jordan · 05-08-2007, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dhbailey

Well, porn plus many of the main-stream movie studios and distributors were coaxed into bringing out all their major pictures on VHS.

Content is king -- whichever technology has the content the public wants will win.

Well, Sony, your solution is clear: You have a reader that handles images, and you need King Content to win. GO FOR THE PORN!

Better get that color screen, too...

astra · 05-08-2007, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Jordan

Well, Sony, your solution is clear: You have a reader that handles images, and you need King Content to win. GO FOR THE PORN!

Better get that color screen, too...

NatCh · 05-08-2007, 08:42 AM

But ... how would they manage the time-honored belly-button staple?

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05-05-2007, 09:18 AM	#61
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	I finally realized that I was going to buy it (and soon), so that broke the choice down for me to two options: 1) pay $26 for a hardback that I have no place to store, and 2) pay $18 for an e-book that I could store, was the format I'd rather read, and which just might encourage Tor to pull out that stick (you know from where) they seem to have about e-books. Once I thought about it in those terms, it was a pretty easy choice.

05-05-2007, 11:22 AM	#63
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,547 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	True. Nice thing about being able to convert to LRF is that you get the pictures that way - lots of Baen books have maps in them. Unfortunately you lose those if you use the RTF version directly on the Reader.

05-07-2007, 10:02 AM	#65
UncleDuke books & doughnuts Posts: 882 Karma: 37857 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: usa Device: sony reader, kindle2	sony was thinking that they could just make a reader and everyone would buy it 'cause it had the sony name on it. fat chance since they p****ed off a lot of their market with that root kit thing on the cds. then there was the minidisk bomb in the us and some are still mad about betamaxes.

05-07-2007, 10:15 AM	#67
UncleDuke books & doughnuts Posts: 882 Karma: 37857 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: usa Device: sony reader, kindle2	yes, they failed to market it and price it correctly. they acted as if just because it was a sony it would sell for more than a vhs. their fees to other companies were higher than vhs and the movie studios did not like making two versions of the same film. back then it cost a lot more to make a copy than it costs now for a dvd. so yes, sony is the reason that betamax failed. and it was a better picture quality.

05-07-2007, 05:23 PM	#68
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,786 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	The reason VHS beat Betamax is because there was more porn available on VHS then Betamax. Nothing to do with which was better or marketed better. It all came down to porn.

05-07-2007, 07:13 PM	#69
dhbailey Guru Posts: 604 Karma: 733 Join Date: Mar 2007 Device: HP iPAQ211 / PRS 500, 700 and 505	Well, porn plus many of the main-stream movie studios and distributors were coaxed into bringing out all their major pictures on VHS. Content is king -- whichever technology has the content the public wants will win. Which is why Sony better work harder to negotiate book deals with more publishers and authors.

05-08-2007, 08:42 AM	#72
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	But ... how would they manage the time-honored belly-button staple?

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