kindle not for lefties - Page 5

ProfCrash · 11-13-2010, 12:47 PM

I took my notes in my chicken scratch, I can read it. I took my tests on computers so my teachers could read it.

I have 8 learning disabilities so I did not take tests in the classroom with my classmates. I took them in the resource room so I could talk out loud to myself during the test. I process information through speech so they could easily let me use the computer for typing answers. That way my spelling, dyslexia and auditory discrimination lead to poor spelling, could be fixed and my teachers could read my handwriting, laziness with a touch of dysgraphia, which was awful.

OakIris · 11-13-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfCrash

I took my notes in my chicken scratch, I can read it. I took my tests on computers so my teachers could read it.

I have 8 learning disabilities so I did not take tests in the classroom with my classmates. I took them in the resource room so I could talk out loud to myself during the test. I process information through speech so they could easily let me use the computer for typing answers. That way my spelling, dyslexia and auditory discrimination lead to poor spelling, could be fixed and my teachers could read my handwriting, laziness with a touch of dysgraphia, which was awful.

Wow. A lot to overcome, ProfCrash. From your posts here on MobileRead, looks as if you are able to deal in style with the hand that life (genetics??sorry if that was my ignorance talking) has dealt you.

Holly

ProfCrash · 11-13-2010, 03:38 PM

Genetics, we can trace learning disabilities and ADHD back three generations. My mother was a pit bull and refused to let the schools screw us over.

Teyrnon · 11-13-2010, 07:50 PM

I'm a lefty and have never had a problem with my Kindle DX or the Kindle 3.

Between my being left handed and having cerebral palsy the school refused to even try to teach me cursive. I spent my childhood printing. Somewhere along the way I began printing ever smaller until my senior year of high school I could fit three lines of text for every line of college ruled notebook paper. Though for tests and things I had to turned in I typed. In high school I carried a Brother portable typewriter.

The summer before my senior year of H.S. I set out to learn cursive if for nothing else but to sign my name. To start with I got my mother to teach me but she only taught me lowercase and a few uppercase letter forms. Over the next year or two I adapted letter forms from a book on calligraphic scripts and may have picked up a few letter forms from people i admired. By my third or fourth year of college I wrote everything in cursive and lost the ability to print really tiny. Oddly I haven't found anyone who had trouble reading my handwriting from college to now. Although a few have called it 'overly idiosyncratic'.

charonme · 11-18-2010, 10:44 AM

when you rotate it 90deg. clockwise, the 5way appears on your left

floridamom · 11-19-2010, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by desertblues

But for scissors; I never thought/knew there were special ones.

Most companies simply change the handles and call the scissors left handed (or say they're for both). It's the blade placement that actually makes the difference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scissor...ed.27_scissors
http://www.thelefthand.com/scissors.html

desertblues · 11-19-2010, 07:56 AM

O, thanks

Vandy · 12-08-2010, 10:51 PM

When I was in the 5th grade (let's see, that would have been 1960...), I had a pretty bad "back-handed left slant thing going on with my printing let alone trying to learn cursive. I was given a device that looked like an upside down basket with a cylindrical hole in the middle where your pencil was placed. The only way you could hold the pencil was by wrapping your hand around the basket and then printing straight up and down on the paper.

Today, I still write pretty much straight up and down but I must confess to turning my paper to the right in order to compensate for my left handedness.

Finally, I can't tell you the last time that I purposely used cursive writing for anything serious other than my signature. I block print everything and have for years. When I do cursively write, I have to sometimes stop and remember how to form the letter... That's a bit embarrassing, let me tell you.

Regards,

Vandy (Left Handed and Loving It!)

OakIris · 12-09-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vandy

When I was in the 5th grade (let's see, that would have been 1960...), I had a pretty bad "back-handed left slant thing going on with my printing let alone trying to learn cursive. I was given a device that looked like an upside down basket with a cylindrical hole in the middle where your pencil was placed. The only way you could hold the pencil was by wrapping your hand around the basket and then printing straight up and down on the paper.

Today, I still write pretty much straight up and down but I must confess to turning my paper to the right in order to compensate for my left handedness.

Finally, I can't tell you the last time that I purposely used cursive writing for anything serious other than my signature. I block print everything and have for years. When I do cursively write, I have to sometimes stop and remember how to form the letter... That's a bit embarrassing, let me tell you.

Regards,

Vandy (Left Handed and Loving It!)

Another torture device to make people conform to the "majority" in the way they write.

(j/k) Of course, the whole point of writing is to be able to communicate with others so if this "basket device" helped with that I guess it served a good purpose. If your writing is so eccentric that it can't be read by others then it is not communication.

I know what you mean about writing in cursive. I, too, have printed for so long that I really have to think about it before writing something in cursive. I can write my signature in cursive (sort of - the last name is pretty much a curve and a line with no discernible letters!

) but that is about it.

Holly

SeaBookGuy · 01-01-2011, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OakIris

I know what you mean about writing in cursive. I, too, have printed for so long that I really have to think about it before writing something in cursive. I can write my signature in cursive (sort of - the last name is pretty much a curve and a line with no discernible letters!

) but that is about it.

Holly

As part of a standardized admissions test for graduate school a few years back, we were required to copy a paragraph in cursive (NO PRINTING!) as a "handwriting sample" -- anyone who looked at mine would've thought: "Why would such a mentally challenged person be taking this test???" Trying to remember how to form some of the letters was tougher than some of the exam questions!

I was all set to order a K3 for my dad, went over the Amazon listing one more time, and had second thoughts over the control button placement on the right like that. But, if you guys say it's fine, and he'll mostly be doing page turns anyway ..... It'd likely be my far more tech-savvy (right-handed) mom who'd be ordering the books and such.

The other thing that would be great are the samples - he has Parkinsons and can't really browse in bookstores as easily to see whether he might like the book by leafing through it.

aproudlove · 01-01-2011, 04:39 PM

I'm a lefty and have no problems using a Kindle, like a few of the other posters here, I was actually quite glad to see that it had the page turn buttons on both sides of the device.

The joystick I only tend to really use when I am reading newspapers to skip through the articles quickly, otherwise I dont use it that much.

All that being said and just switching sides to join the off-topic discussion for a minute or two, when I was in junior school (6-11 yrs), a couple of the teachers there used to force me to write right-handed, I would get a smack if I didn't (this was in the days before the cane was made illegal), thankfully as I moved on through the classes and got other teachers, they left me alone to write left-handed. For a short while I could write with both hands "fluently", though these days I am predominately a lefty.
Otherwise on my laptop, I use my left or right hand on the trackpad, doesnt seem to matter, I mouse with my right but use my graphic table with my left. My right hand seems to be my brute force hand, I punch and throw with it, whereas my left hand is more precise and I use it when I need to be extremely cautious or delicate.

Btw, for those people who use left-handed scissors, did you know that you can get left-handed clocks too? I'd get one except for the fact it would drive my family nuts but my kids doctor has one

3bayjunkie · 01-01-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kevinp

Are you one of those that uses a mouse with your left hand? I use the mouse with my right hand, so it's easier for me to adapt to the right-handed world. I don't know about the Kindle. I went to Best Buy to get one today and they didn't have any. There were no "sales associates" around to talk to, so I asked the 16 year-old cashier when the Kindles would be coming in. She said they didn't know when or how many, but the next truck comes on Wednesday and there "might" be some on it. Great way to run a business...

that is a good point because most lefties use the mouse on the right hand even though they are left handed. Cameras have most of the controls on the right side as well, i wonder if he would feel funny operating a camera. I just thought of that...

SteveEisenberg · 01-01-2011, 06:14 PM

Maybe this is because of just being used to the device, but as a leftie, I am wondering whether the K3 is better for lefties than righties.

The only circumstance in which it makes much difference is when I am standing on public transit. I hold the pole or strap with my right hand, as that doesn't require dexterity. My left hand reaches behind the lighted case to hold the bottom right of the device with several fingers.

It seems to me that if I was right handed, I would, when in one-handed mode, be holding the device with thumb only, and would fatally loosen the grip on my Kindle while moving my thumb to press the page-turn button.

I just tried turning the page 180 degrees, to get an experience closer to that of a rightie. I don't like it. But if I was right handed, I might.

leaston · 01-01-2011, 07:39 PM

Having only just spotted this thread and being a proud lefty, I thought I'd put my oar in!

I'm left hand dominant with most things, including writing. However, I can play certain sports (cricket, rounders/baseball) quite happily with my right too, much to the disgust of the poor buggers who draw the short straw and have to bowl, while I swap hands each shot

Anyway, I seem to prefer holding (more like, gently cradling hehe!) my Kindle with my right hand. My right thumb switches nicely between the 5 way button or the page turn button on the right side. So, for me, it would probably be more awkward to have the 5 way on the left side of the keyboard.

However, being left handed in this biased and discriminatory world, I'd adapt. We lefties are far more adaptable because we've had to be from birth. And that's why all the very best people are left handed. So there!

<---- a nice left handed smilie. See what I mean?

Do I get a ban now?

cvkemp · 01-01-2011, 07:45 PM

I am left handed and I have not problems with my kindle. I am not sure what the problem is that make you think that the kindle is not for a left handed person.

12-08-2010, 10:51 PM	#68
Vandy ...always be humble. Posts: 116 Karma: 505917 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Fort Myers, FL USA Device: iPhone 5s, iPod Touch 3rd Gen, Kindle 3 WiFi, Kindle Fire	Writing left handed When I was in the 5th grade (let's see, that would have been 1960...), I had a pretty bad "back-handed left slant thing going on with my printing let alone trying to learn cursive. I was given a device that looked like an upside down basket with a cylindrical hole in the middle where your pencil was placed. The only way you could hold the pencil was by wrapping your hand around the basket and then printing straight up and down on the paper. Today, I still write pretty much straight up and down but I must confess to turning my paper to the right in order to compensate for my left handedness. Finally, I can't tell you the last time that I purposely used cursive writing for anything serious other than my signature. I block print everything and have for years. When I do cursively write, I have to sometimes stop and remember how to form the letter... That's a bit embarrassing, let me tell you. Regards, Vandy (Left Handed and Loving It!)

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11-13-2010, 12:47 PM	#61
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	I took my notes in my chicken scratch, I can read it. I took my tests on computers so my teachers could read it. I have 8 learning disabilities so I did not take tests in the classroom with my classmates. I took them in the resource room so I could talk out loud to myself during the test. I process information through speech so they could easily let me use the computer for typing answers. That way my spelling, dyslexia and auditory discrimination lead to poor spelling, could be fixed and my teachers could read my handwriting, laziness with a touch of dysgraphia, which was awful.

11-13-2010, 03:38 PM	#63
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	Genetics, we can trace learning disabilities and ADHD back three generations. My mother was a pit bull and refused to let the schools screw us over.

11-13-2010, 07:50 PM	#64
Teyrnon Groupie Posts: 190 Karma: 384 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Eastern United States Device: jetBook, Kindle DX, Kindle 3, Kindle Fire, Nook Simple Touch	I'm a lefty and have never had a problem with my Kindle DX or the Kindle 3. Between my being left handed and having cerebral palsy the school refused to even try to teach me cursive. I spent my childhood printing. Somewhere along the way I began printing ever smaller until my senior year of high school I could fit three lines of text for every line of college ruled notebook paper. Though for tests and things I had to turned in I typed. In high school I carried a Brother portable typewriter. The summer before my senior year of H.S. I set out to learn cursive if for nothing else but to sign my name. To start with I got my mother to teach me but she only taught me lowercase and a few uppercase letter forms. Over the next year or two I adapted letter forms from a book on calligraphic scripts and may have picked up a few letter forms from people i admired. By my third or fourth year of college I wrote everything in cursive and lost the ability to print really tiny. Oddly I haven't found anyone who had trouble reading my handwriting from college to now. Although a few have called it 'overly idiosyncratic'.

11-18-2010, 10:44 AM	#65
charonme Zealot Posts: 103 Karma: 11904 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: K3	when you rotate it 90deg. clockwise, the 5way appears on your left

11-19-2010, 07:56 AM	#67
desertblues Home for the moment Posts: 5,127 Karma: 27718936 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: travelling Device: various	O, thanks

01-01-2011, 04:39 PM	#71
aproudlove Enthusiast Posts: 31 Karma: 242 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle	I'm a lefty and have no problems using a Kindle, like a few of the other posters here, I was actually quite glad to see that it had the page turn buttons on both sides of the device. The joystick I only tend to really use when I am reading newspapers to skip through the articles quickly, otherwise I dont use it that much. All that being said and just switching sides to join the off-topic discussion for a minute or two, when I was in junior school (6-11 yrs), a couple of the teachers there used to force me to write right-handed, I would get a smack if I didn't (this was in the days before the cane was made illegal), thankfully as I moved on through the classes and got other teachers, they left me alone to write left-handed. For a short while I could write with both hands "fluently", though these days I am predominately a lefty. Otherwise on my laptop, I use my left or right hand on the trackpad, doesnt seem to matter, I mouse with my right but use my graphic table with my left. My right hand seems to be my brute force hand, I punch and throw with it, whereas my left hand is more precise and I use it when I need to be extremely cautious or delicate. Btw, for those people who use left-handed scissors, did you know that you can get left-handed clocks too? I'd get one except for the fact it would drive my family nuts but my kids doctor has one

01-01-2011, 06:14 PM	#73
SteveEisenberg Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,421 Karma: 43514536 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: near Philadelphia USA Device: Kindle Kids Edition, Fire HD 10 (11th generation)	Maybe this is because of just being used to the device, but as a leftie, I am wondering whether the K3 is better for lefties than righties. The only circumstance in which it makes much difference is when I am standing on public transit. I hold the pole or strap with my right hand, as that doesn't require dexterity. My left hand reaches behind the lighted case to hold the bottom right of the device with several fingers. It seems to me that if I was right handed, I would, when in one-handed mode, be holding the device with thumb only, and would fatally loosen the grip on my Kindle while moving my thumb to press the page-turn button. I just tried turning the page 180 degrees, to get an experience closer to that of a rightie. I don't like it. But if I was right handed, I might.

01-01-2011, 07:39 PM	#74
leaston Addict Posts: 264 Karma: 1135030 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: England Device: Boox Go Color 7, Kobo Forma, Kindle Keyboard	Having only just spotted this thread and being a proud lefty, I thought I'd put my oar in! I'm left hand dominant with most things, including writing. However, I can play certain sports (cricket, rounders/baseball) quite happily with my right too, much to the disgust of the poor buggers who draw the short straw and have to bowl, while I swap hands each shot Anyway, I seem to prefer holding (more like, gently cradling hehe!) my Kindle with my right hand. My right thumb switches nicely between the 5 way button or the page turn button on the right side. So, for me, it would probably be more awkward to have the 5 way on the left side of the keyboard. However, being left handed in this biased and discriminatory world, I'd adapt. We lefties are far more adaptable because we've had to be from birth. And that's why all the very best people are left handed. So there! <---- a nice left handed smilie. See what I mean? Do I get a ban now?

01-01-2011, 07:45 PM	#75
cvkemp Loving life Posts: 1,430 Karma: 7991496 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hot Springs Village, Arkansas Device: PaperWhite 6 SE, Fire HD8	I am left handed and I have not problems with my kindle. I am not sure what the problem is that make you think that the kindle is not for a left handed person.

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