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Don't religious groups often refer to homosexuality as the sin of 'eros'? Additionally, isn't eros also a reference of a particular form of homosexual relationship between an older and younger male in ancient Greece? In any case, it's been a long time since I've read the novel, but by the end of the book I don't remember the sympathies of the author being so clear cut. Could be a false memory. |
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07-23-2013, 11:00 AM | #63 | |
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I'll give Ender's Game a shot if it wins, even though it's not my thing anyway. But I'll borrow the pbook from the library.
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I've never heard any Christian who considers eros itself a sin. Eros is simply sexual love. I have heard Christians who speak of the perversion of eros, of which in traditional Christian morality homosexual acts would be an example along with premartial sex, extramartial sex, masturbation, and various other forms of sex. And while it was certainly not uncommon in ancient Greece or Rome for an older man to have a younger male lover, eros wasn't necessarily a reference to it.
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You just need to have a look at his wiki page to see his views on homosexuality - hence his choice of the name "Buggers" for the evil aliens. I have no time for such narrow-mindedness.
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Thanks Orlok. I'll have a look and educate myself.
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Well reading his wiki did nothing for me because I didn't know what bugger meant in a derogatory sense. I've never heard that before.
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So how about the new to me and British use of the word "punter?" What an American thinks of when someone says punter. |
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"Punter" in British terms probably brings one meaning to mind immediately. A "punter" is a gambler, as in the phrase, "I'll have a punt on that", meaning, "I'll bet on that".
There's also punting as in pushing a boat (specificalky a punt) along with a long pole, but you would have to had attended an Oxbridge college to know that |
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