[GUI Plugin] Reading List

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

@davidfor - I really would prefer removal of 'Default' just be prevented.

I do not want one of the RL's I've created to suddenly acquire the 'special' attributes of the 'Default' RL. I don't use the 'Default' RL, my RLs are 'project' related and they are transient. I had hoped by removing Default I could reduce the menu size by getting rid of all the "xxxx to Default..." menu options - but if I can't, c'est la vie.

Whichever list you choose as the default appears in these places. I change mine occasionally depending on what I am doing to put whichever I am using the most in the easies to access place.

Well maybe that's what supposed to happen theoretically, but it ain't what I see here - and it never has been. For the record, with large icons viz:

Attachment 147014

For me in Windows, it looks like: And it was similar on my work Linux machine.

I normally have no icons. So theoretically, what and where should I see something the equates to a "small arrow in the bottom right corner of the button" when there are no icons, viz

Attachment 147016

Maybe use an ↑ on the right if the 'item' itself has an action, and a '↓' on the right if it doesn't - or vice versa. It's not important, just another 'why is it so' question. Wouldn't have mentioned it, but for the problem after the removing Default RL.

All this is a calibre display issue, so you need to raise a enhancement bug to get it changed.

Originally Posted by BetterRed

When I select a list from the View Reading List flyout it overrides the sort settings as defined by the current View Manager selection Ψ²

That is deliberate. A reading list has an order. It defaults to the order you add books to the list. But, you can edit the order using "Edit list".

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by davidfor

Whichever list you choose as the default appears in these places. I change mine occasionally depending on what I am doing to put whichever I am using the most in the easies to access place.

I think it best if I leave Default as it is, unused, unloved. . . Knowing what happens if I remove it is sufficient deterrent for me not to do it again

Originally Posted by davidfor

For me in Windows, it looks like: Attachment 147018 And it was similar on my work Linux machine.

All this is a calibre display issue, so you need to raise a enhancement bug to get it changed.

How odd, bizzare even. Let's do with this what A&W did to Greece - kick it into the long grass.

Originally Posted by davidfor

That is deliberate. A reading list has an order. It defaults to the order you add books to the list. But, you can edit the order using "Edit list".

- my default VM sort order on _Main library is Usage (int) ascending, Last Action (enum) ascending, Date Last Action (date) descending, and Title (string) descending. The order in which I add books to the RL is totally irrelevant. The Edit List function doesn't show the first three columns, and even if it did my RL's are typically 20-200 books - sorting them manually every time I update the RL, or one of the columns would take a month of Sundays. I'll just have to keep pressing the kb short for my VM default layout

I use RL's rather than VL's because candidature is based on actual book content, rather than book metadata. Up 'til now I've been using Import List to facilitate doing it, which was a fiddlesome process. But DaltonST's Drop Search Results PI has made it a walk in the park.

BR

[Efreak]

1. Please have an option to not request confirmation of deleting ebooks on next sync. It would be nice to be able to set tags to delete ebooks when I'm at my computer, then later on sync from somewhere else in the house without having to sit down at my computer and confirm that I want to remove ebooks. Say if I'm reading in bed and finish my last book, then I should be able to update my library without getting up.

2. Also, I'd like to be able to keep a list of which ebooks are currently on my device, but that's not working for me. I created a custom column called #ondevice and have reading list plugin update this column automatically (you can see the options below), but when syncing, calibre freezes for too long for this to be useful. This may have something to do with my having a large number of documents on my tablet. Basically, I want to have a list of books that are on the device, books that will be removed, and books that will be added (I'd like to use the replace contents option, but I don't want to remove books that were downloaded via the content server or from other libraries).

[edwdecarlo]

Originally Posted by Efreak

2. Also, I'd like to be able to keep a list of which ebooks are currently on my device, but that's not working for me. I created a custom column called #ondevice and have reading list plugin update this column automatically (you can see the options below), but when syncing, calibre freezes for too long for this to be useful. This may have something to do with my having a large number of documents on my tablet. Basically, I want to have a list of books that are on the device, books that will be removed, and books that will be added (I'd like to use the replace contents option, but I don't want to remove books that were downloaded via the content server or from other libraries).

Calibre already has a column called ondevice, so I am suspecting that your custom column with the same name is causing the issue. Try creating a new custom column with a different name for this purpose, and delete your custom ondevice column.

Note: I have done a similar thing to better track what books are no my device, so I know it works.

Hope this helps.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by edwdecarlo

Calibre already has a column called ondevice, so I am suspecting that your custom column with the same name is causing the issue. Try creating a new custom column with a different name for this purpose, and delete your custom ondevice column.

Note: I have done a similar thing to better track what books are no my device, so I know it works.

Hope this helps.

The names are extremely close (by a #).
I would suggest avoiding confusion (especially when asking for help), by being a bit more different. #mydevice, #onkindle...

[BetterRed]

Originally Posted by theducks

The names are extremely close (by a #).
I would suggest avoiding confusion (especially when asking for help), by being a bit more different. #mydevice, #onkindle...

- and I try to make the lookup name and the Column Name similar, so in this case I'd have '#synced' and 'Synced'.

BR

[Sgrizzo]

Hi,
I am using reading list plugin to keep track of books on my Kobo even when it is not connected. This is what I did: I created a Boolean custom column (named #onkobo) and I set the following values in preferences:
List type: Auto populate list from books on device
When changing this list: update column for add or remove
Column to update: #onkobo
Value in column to add/remove: Y

Now I use virtual libraries and I have often several tabs open. When I sync using the plugin (automatically or manually) all the books which are not in the virtual library corresponding to active tab are considered not in the list so the value Y is removed from my custom column.

Am I doing something wrong or is this the expected behavior (so I have to find a different method for keeping track of books on my device)?

Bye,
Valerio

[davidfor]

That is expected behaviour. The virtual library is excluding books from being seen when the Reading List updates the list. Hence, it can't find the books to put on the list. The workaround is to make sure you are not using a virtual library when you connect the device.

[Sgrizzo]

Originally Posted by davidfor

That is expected behaviour. The virtual library is excluding books from being seen when the Reading List updates the list. Hence, it can't find the books to put on the list. The workaround is to make sure you are not using a virtual library when you connect the device.

Thank you for immediate reply. So it seems that there is no 'set and forget' solution: I will live with that.

Thanks again.

[whismerhill]

hi,
I love this plugin abilities
I would like to create lists of books autopopulated from device but synched manually only

any ideas ?
thanks

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by whismerhill

hi,
I love this plugin abilities
I would like to create lists of books autopopulated from device but synched manually only

Sorry, but that's a contradiction. You will need to create two lists.

The autopopulated from device list are exactly that. When the device is connected, they get populated with exactly what is on the device at that point in time. You can't manually add books to these lists. These are intended to be the current state of the device. There is no way to stop these from updating when the device is connected

For the second list, you can have a send-to-device list that doesn't automatically sync. Then, when you do the manual sync, it will go to the device and the autopopulated list will be updated.

[whismerhill]

Thanks for the answer,
but unless I misunderstood (I'm french) that's not what I'm looking for.

What I want is basically a list that takes a snapshot of what's in my device at a certain point in time of my choosing.
For now I manage to make it by changing the type of list it is when I want to sync it

example usage : I take a snapshot of what's in my wife's ereader before I delete & add books to her device, that way if I made a mistake I can easily check out the snapshot list I took before to revert changes.

so in this case after the sync is done, I change the type of list it is to manually updated so that's it's not synced again on next ereader connection. (which would defeat the purpose of that list, which acts like a sort of "history")

My only gripe with my method is that I HAVE TO not forget to set back the list to manually after a manual sync otherwise it might just overwrite it on next ereader connection. Hence why I was looking for another way to do the same.


EDIT: basically if you could uncheck the "sync to this device as soon as it is connected"
when using an autopopulated list. It would be perfect. but maybe there's another way ?
because I learned that in calibre there's often more than 1 way to do things. And sometimes some things which are not possible at first become possible with some work around. (example yes/no read status columns can't go in the tag browser, but use a custom column that extracts the yes/no value as a tag & there you have it in the tag browser)

[davidfor]

Personally, I don't use a autopopulated list. What I use is a list for each device I have. When add a new book, or make a change to one, I add it to the lists for the devices I want it on. For my main device, the list automatically syncs. For the others, when I connect, I manually do the sync.

If you don't want to update the on-device list every time, you are probably better to manually manage it. When the device is connected, select all the books on the device and add them to the appropriate list.

[whismerhill]

nah doesn't work sorry :s
for my example :
it's my wife's I have no control over what she puts on it *shrugs* xD
she just gives it to me from time to time to feed it with stuff lol

ho well whatever
have a good day guyz

[davidfor]

Originally Posted by whismerhill

nah doesn't work sorry :s
for my example :
it's my wife's I have no control over what she puts on it *shrugs* xD
she just gives it to me from time to time to feed it with stuff lol

In that case I, I would have thought autopopulating the list was important.

It sounds like:
- Wife has the ereader and adds books herself.
- Occasionally, she gives it to you to add other books.

To me that says that when you plug it in, you need the list updated as you don't know exactly what is on her device. And you can keep that list for when the device is not connected to build a separate list of candidate books for the next time you connect it. At that point you remove the books from the candidate list that she obtained elsewhere, send the rest and clear the candidate list for the next time.