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Old 01-11-2011, 07:43 AM   #7171
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They have been using the liquid -- magnesium chloride around here the last few years.....it eats cars and makes the road look like black ice!
They said this morning that they are now using calcium chloride on the roads (as opposed to sodium chloride, I guess?) but that it doesn't seem to be working either because of how thick the ice is. I hadn't even thought about the fact that this stuff is going to be getting up under my car. If I ever get my car out of the driveway, of course.
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Old 01-11-2011, 07:50 AM   #7172
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They said this morning that they are now using calcium chloride on the roads (as opposed to sodium chloride, I guess?) but that it doesn't seem to be working either because of how thick the ice is.
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Old 01-11-2011, 07:54 AM   #7173
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The reason they went to the liquid here is that the granular stuff only works if the sun/temp is high enough. The liquid works at lower temps......and we go plenty of those that the moment -15C
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Old 01-11-2011, 08:33 AM   #7174
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We're in the council's "land slip risk" area (just - our house is the last one in it downhill on our street), but it's not something I've really considered a risk for us in this. The road's developed a few more "stretch mark" cracks, but nothing that looks much more than cosmetic. We had a fair whack of rain, about 170mm/6.7" since 9am with about half of that coming between 4pm and 6pm this afternoon.

Brisbane and Ipswich flood levels won't peak until, I think, Thursday, even though the rain has eased off. They're still confirming more dead, and increasing the numbers of people missing. It's been pretty full-on just watching on the telly, so those who are or know people in the relevant zones (see some of the posts above) must be a bit anxious.

I've heard it said that 75% of Queensland has been declared a Disaster Area, so by my calculations that's about 1.3 million km2 or 500,000 square miles (I'll let everyone else do their relevant, local comparisons). Of course, population density is lower than a lot of places too, but it's still a pretty big area.

Anyway, again, for me...no real effect other than a mother staying longer than expected (only a problem in my own, self-indulgent, little mind ). The effect on others is pretty large and broad...an enormity I don't think we're going to grasp for at least a small while yet.

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I hope the Australian weather improves soon. The enormity of the flooding in Queensland is frightening.
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Old 01-11-2011, 09:36 AM   #7175
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I've heard it said that 75% of Queensland has been declared a Disaster Area, so by my calculations that's about 1.3 million km2 or 500,000 square miles (I'll let everyone else do their relevant, local comparisons). Of course, population density is lower than a lot of places too, but it's still a pretty big area.
I hears news that an area as large as France and Germany combines was affected. It's so huge, most people here just can't imagine it. I know I can't...
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:08 AM   #7176
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so I guess we have snow on the ground in every state except for Florida right now?
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:12 AM   #7177
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so I guess we have snow on the ground in every state except for Florida right now?
It's a crazy state of affairs! And I don't know about today, but they even had snow on the ground in Florida a couple of days ago:

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/talk/content/snow-florida-see-photos-our-readers
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:28 AM   #7178
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It's a crazy state of affairs! And I don't know about today, but they even had snow on the ground in Florida a couple of days ago:

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/talk/content/snow-florida-see-photos-our-readers
yeah, I caught that, but you guys hadn't had your snow yet. either last year or the year before as I recall, there was a day when every state had snow on the ground
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:29 AM   #7179
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It's a crazy state of affairs! And I don't know about today, but they even had snow on the ground in Florida a couple of days ago:

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/talk/content/snow-florida-see-photos-our-readers
Wow! Maybe it's really the end of the world then
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:30 AM   #7180
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Wow! Maybe it's really the end of the world then
It does end in ice after all then?
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Old 01-11-2011, 11:37 AM   #7181
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Still icy, but have managed to retrieve the car - poor dog still can't keep her four feet in the correct place and she keeps wondering why she ends up on her tummy ....
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poor dog still can't keep her four feet in the correct place and she keeps wondering why she ends up on her tummy ....
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Still icy, but have managed to retrieve the car - poor dog still can't keep her four feet in the correct place and she keeps wondering why she ends up on her tummy ....
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