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pilotbob · 08-10-2010, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by beppe

Listen also to gringas agricolas, if they tcome to you with a spoon of sour cream to start the new batch.

Agricola is one of my favorite board games.

BOb

beppe · 08-10-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

A bit like sourdough bread, eh?

Actually and recently, I was told by a chum that he makes sourdough bread just from flour and water, every time.

kennyc · 08-10-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by beppe

Actually and recently, I was told by a chum that he makes sourdough bread just from flour and water, every time.

There are natural yeasts that it can all start with.

Ea · 08-11-2010, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

There are natural yeasts that it can all start with.

The couple of times I've made sourdough I've just started them myself that way. Takes a little while to get them up and running, of course, and it can be a bit of a gamble - some yeasts make better bread than others. Over time you learn to work with it though.

I would add salt and a little bit of something acidic, f.ex. lemon juice or yoghurt, to the minimum required ingredient list for making bread. It aids the yeast (I forgot the reason). And bread without salt doesn't taste as well, either.

beppe · 08-11-2010, 05:00 AM

I was never successful with sourdough bread, yet. With bread started with beer yeast yes. But those breads I can find in the bakeries around here, of every sort, shape and taste, the zone is renown for it's bread, must be the water. And I do not eat much bread anyway with my present way of non-eating.

Sourdough bread is an other story. No body sells it here. And there are no wonder yeast to be bought. I will ask my train friend more details. Apparently it takes even few days to have it raising. It will wait till September when I take the train again, if my friend has not been arrested in the mean time. He is an art broker. (Oh look, I thought that I had lost my touch for surreal. I am glad

)

Ea · 08-11-2010, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by beppe

I was never successful with sourdough bread, yet. With bread started with beer yeast yes. But those breads I can find in the bakeries around here, of every sort, shape and taste, the zone is renown for it's bread, must be the water. And I do not eat much bread anyway with my present way of non-eating.

Sourdough bread is an other story. No body sells it here. And there are no wonder yeast to be bought. I will ask my train friend more details. Apparently it takes even few days to have it raising. It will wait till September when I take the train again, if my friend has not been arrested in the mean time. He is an art broker. (Oh look, I thought that I had lost my touch for surreal. I am glad

)

Sourdough artisan bread have become more common here - and of course danish rye-bread is sourdough-bread. Yeast is quicker and easier to control, so most commercially made white breads are made with this.

But it doesn't have to take several days, but longer than it has to with yeast. It gets better if you let it rise slowly in cooler temperatures though. You can imitate the process a little, by starting with a very small amount of yeast. Most recipes uses far too much yeast in my IMO, I guess people are impatient. But you cannot hurry the dough, it's like a living thing and must take its own time.

beppe · 08-11-2010, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ea

I guess people are impatient. But you cannot hurry the dough, it's like a living thing and must take its own time.

like all the good things.

so that serendipity has a chance to manifest.

About the cooler temperature. You are right. The best bakery product that I know is the bagel. There it is mentioned

proofing the bagels for at least 12 hours at low temperature (40-50 °F = 4.5-10 °C).

Ea · 08-23-2010, 09:59 AM

Hot cocoa

It's raining here, and so cool now that I've had to turn on the radiator, so I thought a nice mug of home made cocoa would be nice.

* Grab your favourite mug (which I assume holds roughly a cup/2 dl), and fill it with milk - leave a little space at the top.
* Pour the milk into a saucepan and put it on the stove - remember to turn up the heat.
* Add one (smallish) tablespoon of cocoa and one (largish) tablespoon of sugar - and a dash of powdered vanilla (optional)
* Whisk while it's heating. If you heat it up well, but not quite to a boil, it'll be less likely to form a skin.
* When done, pour into mug and enjoy.

FlorenceArt · 08-23-2010, 10:05 AM

Sounds delicious!

I never drink milk so I don't have any at home. When the weather is cold, drab and depressing, I drink tea

Ea · 08-23-2010, 10:07 AM

I think it would be nice with rice milk too. I have a roiboos tea with orange flavour that's really nice for weather like this

FlorenceArt · 08-23-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ea

I think it would be nice with rice milk too. I have a roiboos tea with orange flavour that's really nice for weather like this

Yes, I have one like that too, though I usually prefer "Mist over Mount Lu" Chinese green tea. But rice milk? Doesn't sound very appealing

Ea · 08-23-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FlorenceArt

... But rice milk? Doesn't sound very appealing

It's a milk alternative. I just thought that since you didn't drink milk... Somehow I never made the connection that milk might not be a part of your diet in any form

Sorry

I live in "milk-land"

Actually rice milk is quite nice.

pilotbob · 08-23-2010, 11:47 AM

On my infamous diet I have been known to use Soy milk. Not sure how it would be in cocoa though. I put it on my Kashi cereal.

BOb

Ea · 08-23-2010, 11:48 AM

I can safely say it wouldn't be the same

beppe · 08-23-2010, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotbob

On my infamous diet I have been known to use Soy milk. Not sure how it would be in cocoa though. I put it on my Kashi cereal.

BOb

your infamous diet is doing wonders for me.

And may God bless you, dear pilotbob, for putting me on the good road.

PS. I carefully avoid Soy in all its manifestations.
In the morning I use a half portion of instant Quacker porridge with a pinch of salt and water. MW for 1:30, and put in it all the fruit I like. No more cereals or bread or rice or potatoes for the day. Eh!

A hot chocolate like Ea's?

I could have one any time, as an exception, but it is still too hot here for that. When I'll do it I will follow exactly her recipe. I did so with her magic chicken masala and it came out a true delice

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08-11-2010, 05:00 AM	#665
beppe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,161 Karma: 81026524 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Italy Device: Kindle3, Ipod4, IPad2	I was never successful with sourdough bread, yet. With bread started with beer yeast yes. But those breads I can find in the bakeries around here, of every sort, shape and taste, the zone is renown for it's bread, must be the water. And I do not eat much bread anyway with my present way of non-eating. Sourdough bread is an other story. No body sells it here. And there are no wonder yeast to be bought. I will ask my train friend more details. Apparently it takes even few days to have it raising. It will wait till September when I take the train again, if my friend has not been arrested in the mean time. He is an art broker. (Oh look, I thought that I had lost my touch for surreal. I am glad )

08-23-2010, 09:59 AM	#668
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	Hot cocoa It's raining here, and so cool now that I've had to turn on the radiator, so I thought a nice mug of home made cocoa would be nice. * Grab your favourite mug (which I assume holds roughly a cup/2 dl), and fill it with milk - leave a little space at the top. * Pour the milk into a saucepan and put it on the stove - remember to turn up the heat. * Add one (smallish) tablespoon of cocoa and one (largish) tablespoon of sugar - and a dash of powdered vanilla (optional) * Whisk while it's heating. If you heat it up well, but not quite to a boil, it'll be less likely to form a skin. * When done, pour into mug and enjoy.

08-23-2010, 10:05 AM	#669
FlorenceArt High Priestess Posts: 5,761 Karma: 5042529 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montreuil sous bois, France Device: iPad Pro 9.7, iPhone 6 Plus	Sounds delicious! I never drink milk so I don't have any at home. When the weather is cold, drab and depressing, I drink tea

08-23-2010, 10:07 AM	#670
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	I think it would be nice with rice milk too. I have a roiboos tea with orange flavour that's really nice for weather like this

08-23-2010, 11:47 AM	#673
pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	On my infamous diet I have been known to use Soy milk. Not sure how it would be in cocoa though. I put it on my Kashi cereal. BOb

08-23-2010, 11:48 AM	#674
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	I can safely say it wouldn't be the same

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