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Old 11-22-2016, 11:32 PM   #601
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CR is definitely having a rough go of it now, financially. It's mainly because of the Internet and the plethora of websites that offer ratings and reviews on everything imaginable. Well, I can pretty well guarantee you that those sites don't have the testing equipment that CR does and don't put products through the paces like CR does. And CR doesn't accept advertising, which makes me have more confidence in their objectivity.
I don't know how they do these days on lawnmowers, washing machines and toaster ovens, but a few years back I absolutely gave up on them for any technology (printers, digital cameras, etc) because their reviews were absolutely useless, as if they were written by folks with no understanding of the tech, or any sense of what was valuable or not about the products.

I'm glad they are maintaining objectivity, but they seemed to have lost competence.
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I don't know how they do these days on lawnmowers, washing machines and toaster ovens, but a few years back I absolutely gave up on them for any technology (printers, digital cameras, etc) because their reviews were absolutely useless, as if they were written by folks with no understanding of the tech, or any sense of what was valuable or not about the products.

I'm glad they are maintaining objectivity, but they seemed to have lost competence.
I almost said something about that, but I already had written more (and gotten off topic) more than I had planned to.

I agree with you. I think that that is a weakness of CR, and has been ever since I can remember. Over the 20 years or so that I've been buying serious (vs Commodore-esce) computer stuff, I have glanced over CR's ratings, reviews, and recommendations, but rarely, if ever, have they had much of an impact on my ultimate decisions. In addition to what you mentioned, it seemed like the number of models that they tested was always very small--on every other kind of product that they tested, there were a lot of items tested. Why (or why not)? Maybe it has to do with the fact that dedicated computer magazines have, IMHO, always done a very good job testing computer-related items. They still do--that is, the computer magazines that still exist. From the way that they talk (and occasional photographs of their test benches), it seems that they have the high tech, specialized lab equipment to do the tests that need to be done; if not, they farm it out to companies who do (I think especially of testing anti-virus software). It just doesn't seem like CR has a place in this orb.
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I almost said something about that, but I already had written more (and gotten off topic) more than I had planned to.

I agree with you. I think that that is a weakness of CR, and has been ever since I can remember. Over the 20 years or so that I've been buying serious (vs Commodore-esce) computer stuff, I have glanced over CR's ratings, reviews, and recommendations, but rarely, if ever, have they had much of an impact on my ultimate decisions. In addition to what you mentioned, it seemed like the number of models that they tested was always very small--on every other kind of product that they tested, there were a lot of items tested. ...
I've also found that if you read the actual reviews, they'll rave over one brand, but then label an inferior one their "pick" simply on the basis of price alone. I ignore them completely and put them into the same category of Oprah Picks on books.
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Ack! That is low. I don't mean your comment, but your assessment of Oprah's picks.

For several years, I operated a couple of Internet-only book businesses. In a couple of categories, I knew the books that were in demand, would sell well, command a good price, etc., but I was just about totally in the dark about most others (almost all fiction, for example). When I saw "Oprah Book Club Pick," or whatever it said, on the cover, however, it was like the kiss of death to me. They were almost impossible to sell, and if I did, I basically had to give them away. I've got my theories as to why, but to go into them would get me way off topic.

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I've also found that if you read the actual reviews, they'll rave over one brand, but then label an inferior one their "pick" simply on the basis of price alone.
I think that those are the ones that they label "best buys" or something to that effect. It is easy enough to ignore those and head straight for the top of the ratings, if that's what a person wants. But, usually those products were the most expensive, or close to being the most expensive, of the bunch. Neither my budget nor money-spending mentality allows me to go for those.

Interestingly, however, and perhaps you have noticed this, very often the more expensive items score lower than less expensive items. And, the opposite (or is it the converse? whatever) is true--less expensive items score better than the more expensive ones. Sometimes there is a huge disparity in prices, too. So, of course, it makes sense to buy the less expensive one (one exception that I can think of is if a person wants to impress other people, so they buy a model from a brand which is more highly regarded than a better, but less well regarded one--e.g., a Mercedes, instead of a better-rated Chevrolet). CR demonstrates that the adage, "you get what you pay for" is not always true, and helps people save a lot of money, IMHO.

So, I (still) appreciate CR because it can help me get better "bang for the buck"--things that I feel strike a good balance between price and performance/quality. IMHO, I haven't felt that that they label an inferior item their "pick" simply on the basis of price alone.

To make my comments above on topic, this is true of grocery items that you use to cook with, just like the bigger-ticket, non-consumable items. ha

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Cross-posting, because maybe I should have posted here in the first place...

The Wall St. Journal posted an article at 4:08 this afternoon which lists the Instant-Pot ("7-in-1 multifunctional cooker") first in its list of Amazon's best sellers today!

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