Doctor Who made me cry. :( - Page 4

ShortNCuddlyAm · 01-08-2010, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lo Zeno

Matt Smith is the eleventh Doctor, right? But this means... that there are only 2 incarnations left...

The End Is Nigh! Ok, not so nigh... but thinking "only two doctors left" is somewhat scary: my children will not enjoy Doctor Who for as long as I did (and I am young - I was born 19 years after the first episode!)

There is a get-out clause for that though - the master is past his 13th regeneration...

HarryT · 01-08-2010, 06:52 AM

Dr Who has always been free to ignore its own "laws" whenever it suits it. You don't honestly think that some vague reference to "only 12 regenerations" will cause the show to be cancelled, do you?

These things are put in for plot purposes - eg, at one stage, it was convenient, for the purposes of the plot, to state that weapons would not function inside the TARDIS. Goodness knows how often that's been ignored since, but it's quite a few.

Lo Zeno · 01-08-2010, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

You don't honestly think that some vague reference to "only 12 regenerations" will cause the show to be cancelled, do you?

No, but I am more inclined to think that they might take a more "american" approach (american as opposed to the brisith approach) and, instead of ignoring or badly twisting the "established law", shifting the series to another point of view (and another main character) copmpletely.
For example... he's been a father, several times... what if one of his offsprings becomes the "doctress Who"?

DixieGal · 01-08-2010, 09:09 AM

I'm going to miss Catherine Tate. Donna Noble was my favorite companion since Romana. Romana was a young Time Lord who was doing a sort of internship with The Doctor. She was book smart and he was clever, so they made a great team. And she regenerated on the show also! She started out as one actress, then grew to admire the previous companion so much that she "voluntarily" regenerated and came back in the body of the previous actress. I don't think they specified the details, but it must have been some sort of temporary temporal suicide.

HarryT · 01-08-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DixieGal

I'm going to miss Catherine Tate. Donna Noble was my favorite companion since Romana. Romana was a young Time Lord who was doing a sort of internship with The Doctor. She was book smart and he was clever, so they made a great team. And she regenerated on the show also! She started out as one actress, then grew to admire the previous companion so much that she "voluntarily" regenerated and came back in the body of the previous actress. I don't think they specified the details, but it must have been some sort of temporary temporal suicide.

Forgive the geeky correction, but the "second Romana" was not a previous companion, but someone they met on one of their "adventures" ("Princess Astra" in the story "The Armageddon Factor").

The real reason, of course, was that Mary Tamm (the original Romana) decided to leave the show after a single season because she felt that the character was too limited; they already had several more "Romana" scripts written and waiting to be produced, so they needed a replacement in a hurry, and Lalla Ward was available.

veysey · 01-08-2010, 10:45 AM

Love the thread ...

My first Doctor was Tom Baker, but I've been a big fan of the three before him as well.

I'll miss Tennant of course. He and Eccleston were both terrific. Both of them were better than anyone since Baker in my irrelevant opinion. But I wanted to add one thing to the thread. The coming of the new doctor also marks the beginning of Steven Moffit and the end of Russell Davies. I'm so excited about this that I barely miss Tennant.

For those of you who don't know, Moffit is the guy who wrote some of the best (IMO) episodes of the 2005+ series. "Blink" "Silence in the Library". "The Unearthly Child (Are you my mommy?)", and of course "The Girl in the Fireplace" ...

Moffit avoids Davies' predilection for "mega-drama" (eg The Stolen Earth, etc). Don't get me wrong, I love Davies for bringing the series back, and he's written some brilliant episodes (e.g. Midnight), but he some of his excesses rubbed me the wrong way. Daleks. No wait. Daleks AND cybermen! The end of the universe! The end of time! I like the subtler stuff, I guess.

But hopefully Moffit can build off his track record ...

HarryT · 01-08-2010, 11:00 AM

Yes, there's no doubt that the advent of Steven Moffat (note the correct spelling, by the way

) is excellent news for DW. He's written some truly classic stories.

kennyc · 01-08-2010, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Forgive the geeky correction, but the "second Romana" was not a previous companion, but someone they met on one of their "adventures" ("Princess Astra" in the story "The Armageddon Factor").

The real reason, of course, was that Mary Tamm (the original Romana) decided to leave the show after a single season because she felt that the character was too limited; they already had several more "Romana" scripts written and waiting to be produced, so they needed a replacement in a hurry, and Lalla Ward was available.

Never mess with a Dalek!

kennyc · 01-08-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by veysey

,...

For those of you who don't know, Moffit is the guy who wrote some of the best (IMO) episodes of the 2005+ series. "Blink" "Silence in the Library". "The Unearthly Child (Are you my mommy?)", ...

Yes, Blink and Library are two of my favorites!

I wanna know more about that woman in the library episode thank knows the doctor's name!

HarryT · 01-08-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

I wanna know more about that woman in the library episode thank knows the doctor's name!

She's back in the new series, so hopefully that story will develop then.

JSWolf · 01-08-2010, 11:14 AM

I did see the first 1/2 of the new episodes. Have to see the 2nd 1/2. I have them downloaded. So I'll get to it today or tomorrow.

ShortNCuddlyAm · 01-08-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

She's back in the new series, so hopefully that story will develop then.

Oh good! I know some people found her irritating, but I was intrigued by that character.

Dylrob · 01-08-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

She's back in the new series, so hopefully that story will develop then.

But wait, how could she have recognized Tennant's Doctor if they met after he regenerated? And plus she mentioned he looked older when they first met (Matt Smith looks, because he is, much younger than David Tennant)?

kennyc · 01-08-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylrob

But wait, how could she have recognized Tennant's Doctor if they met after he regenerated? And plus she mentioned he looked older when they first met (Matt Smith looks, because he is, much younger than David Tennant)?

All will be revealed.

pilotbob · 01-08-2010, 06:21 PM

I don't know why my TiVo never catches this show when they are new.

BOb

01-08-2010, 10:45 AM	#51
veysey Enthusiast Posts: 31 Karma: 144 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Washington DC Device: Sony ?	Steven Moffit! Love the thread ... My first Doctor was Tom Baker, but I've been a big fan of the three before him as well. I'll miss Tennant of course. He and Eccleston were both terrific. Both of them were better than anyone since Baker in my irrelevant opinion. But I wanted to add one thing to the thread. The coming of the new doctor also marks the beginning of Steven Moffit and the end of Russell Davies. I'm so excited about this that I barely miss Tennant. For those of you who don't know, Moffit is the guy who wrote some of the best (IMO) episodes of the 2005+ series. "Blink" "Silence in the Library". "The Unearthly Child (Are you my mommy?)", and of course "The Girl in the Fireplace" ... Moffit avoids Davies' predilection for "mega-drama" (eg The Stolen Earth, etc). Don't get me wrong, I love Davies for bringing the series back, and he's written some brilliant episodes (e.g. Midnight), but he some of his excesses rubbed me the wrong way. Daleks. No wait. Daleks AND cybermen! The end of the universe! The end of time! I like the subtler stuff, I guess. But hopefully Moffit can build off his track record ...

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Dr Who has always been free to ignore its own "laws" whenever it suits it. You don't honestly think that some vague reference to "only 12 regenerations" will cause the show to be cancelled, do you? These things are put in for plot purposes - eg, at one stage, it was convenient, for the purposes of the plot, to state that weapons would not function inside the TARDIS. Goodness knows how often that's been ignored since, but it's quite a few.

01-08-2010, 09:09 AM	#49
DixieGal Hi There! Posts: 7,473 Karma: 2930523 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale Device: iPad	I'm going to miss Catherine Tate. Donna Noble was my favorite companion since Romana. Romana was a young Time Lord who was doing a sort of internship with The Doctor. She was book smart and he was clever, so they made a great team. And she regenerated on the show also! She started out as one actress, then grew to admire the previous companion so much that she "voluntarily" regenerated and came back in the body of the previous actress. I don't think they specified the details, but it must have been some sort of temporary temporal suicide.

01-08-2010, 11:00 AM	#52
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Yes, there's no doubt that the advent of Steven Moffat (note the correct spelling, by the way ) is excellent news for DW. He's written some truly classic stories.

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