Does an unavailable ebook represent, to you, a lost book sale? - Page 4

Superlucky · 09-16-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tattncat

You need to have another option for us optimists. I have no urge to buy paper. What I do is add the book to an ongoing list of books I am waiting to see become available in digital format; like the Wheel of Time series; the Harry Potter series, and until just recently Ayn Rand's books.
IMHO eventually they will all have to come out as eBooks, it's just a matter of time and patience.

I totally agree. Several times I have been disappointed that I couldn't find an ebook and then found it later unexpectedly (most recently the Ayn Rand works - thanks to a heads-up here on MR).

Daithi · 09-16-2009, 02:50 PM

Are the Ayn Rand books now available somewhere? Other than Anthem, which is in the public domain, I still don't see them in the Kindle Store on Amazon yet.

AnemicOak · 09-16-2009, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daithi

Are the Ayn Rand books now available somewhere? Other than Anthem, which is in the public domain, I still don't see them in the Kindle Store on Amazon yet.

Sony has them. They are the only place so far, the publisher doesn't even have them on their site.

gbermor · 09-17-2009, 12:28 AM

Books on Board has a few.

Moejoe · 09-17-2009, 03:58 AM

I voted yes, and it's now my answer for all entertainment. If the publisher hasn't got a digital copy I can buy for my computer, then they've lost a sale. I might, might buy a second hand paperback of something I can't find anywhere else or a rare dvd, but I'm not going back to physical books and discs ever.

Krystian Galaj · 09-17-2009, 04:39 AM

In the distant past, when I had Internet access and a palmtop, but no monetary means of purchasing either ebooks or paper books in English, I was reading a lot of darknet books, preferring to read in the language in which they were written. I very rarely had any trouble with the quality of the text in the files, possibly because I could usually choose from many versions for the same books.
Later when I was able to purchase from Amazon, I bought a number of harcover books (about 20) I wanted to have, because of that.
For the past few years all I read are public domain ebooks, because I find them more interesting than darknet books.

So, in a way, I could say unavailable ebook might represent a lost book sale, as I would never buy a hardcover book if I wasn't sure it's worth it.

Flashingblade · 09-17-2009, 05:13 AM

Due to now having dodgy eyesight if it's not an ebook it's a lost sale.

Ea · 09-17-2009, 07:02 AM

I've never bought that many p-books in the first place, and usually only books that were on sale - books are quite expensive here. I always went to the library. I'm actually buying more books now, because e-books are a lot cheaper.

In any case, I tend to avoid fiction p-books (unless it's a Danish book), even from the library, because they are more convenient. Non-fiction doesn't aways fit the reader device format - such as aquarium books or cookbooks.

jayne80 · 09-17-2009, 11:15 AM

If there isn't an ebook of a book that i want i will buy it, but in general as a used pbook. there are a few authors i will buy in HB. I'm hoping by the time I'm ready to read the new Diana Gabaldon it will be out in ebook, i'm not sure my wrists will be up to the strain of holding the HB

Icarusbop · 09-17-2009, 12:25 PM

How about this as an option:

Will result in EXTRA pbook sales.....

for example, buy the paper version, destroy it so it can be scanned in and read on an electronic deivce.
Buy the paper version again so it can go on a bookshelf as part of the rest of the series, where it is never read, but completes the paper set.....

Taking into account the UK's version of the DMCA (can't think of the name at the moment), and that you can be sure that 'THEY' are always watching , I would like to declare I'm not actually admitting to perpertrating such a crime. But merely citing it as a possibility.

benham · 09-17-2009, 12:39 PM

I like series. Sony quite often does not have all of the books in the series. So it depends on the author. There are some who write series, like James Lee Burke, Jeffery Deaver, Randy Wayne White, etc where it helps develop the story line to read them in order. Others it doesn't seem to matter.

sabredog · 09-17-2009, 08:25 PM

I prefer ebooks now and mostly good SF ones at that. Here in Australia SF that I like is pretty hard to purchase in paperback and very expensive when they are to be found.

So if the ebook cannot be found and purchased and all search options are exhausted it is time to resort to "other sources".

Blue Tyson · 09-17-2009, 10:44 PM

Yeah. The chance that you will find on the shelf an anthology or collection other than by a handful of Stephen Kings etc. is pretty close to zero, hereo.

JSWolf · 09-18-2009, 09:04 AM

Buying Ayn Rand is a loss of a sale of a real book.

junkml · 09-18-2009, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Buying Ayn Rand is a loss of a sale of a real book.

But the purchase of a damn fine doorstop!

View Poll Results: Does an unavailable ebook represent, to you, a lost book sale?
Yes, if it isn't available as an ebook I'm not buying it	86	48.86%
No, if it isn't available as an ebook I'll buy the paper version	10	5.68%
No, but I'd have to REALLY want the book to buy a paper version	80	45.45%
Voters: 176. You may not vote on this poll

09-17-2009, 12:25 PM	#55
Icarusbop Groupie Posts: 156 Karma: 25846 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: UK Device: PRS505	How about this as an option: Will result in EXTRA pbook sales..... for example, buy the paper version, destroy it so it can be scanned in and read on an electronic deivce. Buy the paper version again so it can go on a bookshelf as part of the rest of the series, where it is never read, but completes the paper set..... Taking into account the UK's version of the DMCA (can't think of the name at the moment), and that you can be sure that 'THEY' are always watching , I would like to declare I'm not actually admitting to perpertrating such a crime. But merely citing it as a possibility. Last edited by Icarusbop; 09-17-2009 at 12:28 PM.

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09-16-2009, 02:50 PM	#47
Daithi Publishers are evil! Posts: 2,418 Karma: 36205264 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island Device: Various Kindles	Are the Ayn Rand books now available somewhere? Other than Anthem, which is in the public domain, I still don't see them in the Kindle Store on Amazon yet.

09-17-2009, 12:28 AM	#49
gbermor Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 74190 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Device: Sony PRS-300, Kindle/SO	Books on Board has a few.

09-17-2009, 03:58 AM	#50
Moejoe Banned Posts: 5,100 Karma: 72193 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South of the Border Device: Coffin	I voted yes, and it's now my answer for all entertainment. If the publisher hasn't got a digital copy I can buy for my computer, then they've lost a sale. I might, might buy a second hand paperback of something I can't find anywhere else or a rare dvd, but I'm not going back to physical books and discs ever.

09-17-2009, 04:39 AM	#51
Krystian Galaj Guru Posts: 820 Karma: 11012 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Warsaw, Poland Device: Bookeen Cybook	In the distant past, when I had Internet access and a palmtop, but no monetary means of purchasing either ebooks or paper books in English, I was reading a lot of darknet books, preferring to read in the language in which they were written. I very rarely had any trouble with the quality of the text in the files, possibly because I could usually choose from many versions for the same books. Later when I was able to purchase from Amazon, I bought a number of harcover books (about 20) I wanted to have, because of that. For the past few years all I read are public domain ebooks, because I find them more interesting than darknet books. So, in a way, I could say unavailable ebook might represent a lost book sale, as I would never buy a hardcover book if I wasn't sure it's worth it.

09-17-2009, 05:13 AM	#52
Flashingblade Enthusiast Posts: 43 Karma: 286 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Manchester - England Device: Sony PRS-505S	Due to now having dodgy eyesight if it's not an ebook it's a lost sale.

09-17-2009, 07:02 AM	#53
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	I've never bought that many p-books in the first place, and usually only books that were on sale - books are quite expensive here. I always went to the library. I'm actually buying more books now, because e-books are a lot cheaper. In any case, I tend to avoid fiction p-books (unless it's a Danish book), even from the library, because they are more convenient. Non-fiction doesn't aways fit the reader device format - such as aquarium books or cookbooks.

09-17-2009, 11:15 AM	#54
jayne80 Connoisseur Posts: 68 Karma: 5837 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Device: iphone 4s, ipad 3, kindle touch,kindle PW, kobo mini, kobo aura	If there isn't an ebook of a book that i want i will buy it, but in general as a used pbook. there are a few authors i will buy in HB. I'm hoping by the time I'm ready to read the new Diana Gabaldon it will be out in ebook, i'm not sure my wrists will be up to the strain of holding the HB

09-17-2009, 12:39 PM	#56
benham Guru Posts: 882 Karma: 5565888 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Townsend, WI Device: Palm TX, PRS-505 (BLUE)	I like series. Sony quite often does not have all of the books in the series. So it depends on the author. There are some who write series, like James Lee Burke, Jeffery Deaver, Randy Wayne White, etc where it helps develop the story line to read them in order. Others it doesn't seem to matter.

09-17-2009, 08:25 PM	#57
sabredog Geographically Restricted Posts: 2,629 Karma: 14933353 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Device: Sony PRS-T3, Kindle Voyage, iPad Air2, Nexus7v2	I prefer ebooks now and mostly good SF ones at that. Here in Australia SF that I like is pretty hard to purchase in paperback and very expensive when they are to be found. So if the ebook cannot be found and purchased and all search options are exhausted it is time to resort to "other sources".

09-17-2009, 10:44 PM	#58
Blue Tyson Blue Captain Posts: 1,595 Karma: 5000236 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Keyboard 3G,Huawei Ideos X3,Kobo Mini	Yeah. The chance that you will find on the shelf an anthology or collection other than by a handful of Stephen Kings etc. is pretty close to zero, hereo.

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09-18-2009, 09:04 AM	#59
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,398 Karma: 145491800 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Buying Ayn Rand is a loss of a sale of a real book.