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Old 04-29-2009, 07:19 AM   #46
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Oh, they were awesome movies. By themselves. Do I think they honour the books? No. Some parts are always overblown as people seem to expect them (love stories), other parts are forgotten or at least became a minor part of the movie (while I think they are important parts of the story).

At least they didn't try to put it all in one movie...

(I can only think of one mini-series that I really love that is based on a book, and that is Shogun)
Ahh, Shogun! One of my all time favourite TV mini-series and books. Can't beat that.
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I can't say I minded the minor changes made to LOTR. For one thing it's a different medium - some things just won't work the same way. Secondly, much of the stories that inspired Tolkien in the first place comes from a time of oral tradition where stories naturally changes over time in retelling for different audiences. AFAIK, Tolkien hoped to create a work that would fit into this kind of tradition, so in a way it's not a bad thing.

I think a big reason that books not always works so well when done as a film, is that books are typically too long, and a lot has to be cut out of the story in order to make the material fit a 1 hour 40 min. movie. With loss of detail and characters, the story may suffer.

I can't think of a book-to-movie I decidedly hated - I always try to lower my expectations - but I was very disappointed by the tacked-on happy ending to Minority Report.
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I think a big reason that books not always works so well when done as a film, is that books are typically too long, and a lot has to be cut out of the story in order to make the material fit a 1 hour 40 min. movie. With loss of detail and characters, the story may suffer.
Which is the reason, I think, that many of the best film adaptations are those of short stories or novellas, rather than novels. A particularly excellent adaptation, IMHO, was that of Barry Longyear's SF novella Enemy Mine.
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Since we are talking about bad movies, here is Kevin Smith talking about how he wrote the script for a Superman movie:
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I can't say I minded the minor changes made to LOTR. For one thing it's a different medium - some things just won't work the same way. Secondly, much of the stories that inspired Tolkien in the first place comes from a time of oral tradition where stories naturally changes over time in retelling for different audiences. AFAIK, Tolkien hoped to create a work that would fit into this kind of tradition, so in a way it's not a bad thing.

I think a big reason that books not always works so well when done as a film, is that books are typically too long, and a lot has to be cut out of the story in order to make the material fit a 1 hour 40 min. movie. With loss of detail and characters, the story may suffer.

I can't think of a book-to-movie I decidedly hated - I always try to lower my expectations - but I was very disappointed by the tacked-on happy ending to Minority Report.
Like in High Crusade where they cut out everything but the title, guys in chainmail and blue aliens.
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I think a big reason that books not always works so well when done as a film, is that books are typically too long, and a lot has to be cut out of the story in order to make the material fit a 1 hour 40 min. movie. With loss of detail and characters, the story may suffer.
I agree. And that's why I don't like a lot of book adaptations. Generally, a mini series is better as you have more time to tell the story. Now, LOTR didn't do too bad, but I still never caught that tension I liked in the books. Too much focus on the fight and romantic scenes...
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I agree. And that's why I don't like a lot of book adaptations. Generally, a mini series is better as you have more time to tell the story. Now, LOTR didn't do too bad, but I still never caught that tension I liked in the books. Too much focus on the fight and romantic scenes...
My only complaint about the movies was that it was impossible to make Sauron the character he was in the books.
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I agree. And that's why I don't like a lot of book adaptations. Generally, a mini series is better as you have more time to tell the story. Now, LOTR didn't do too bad, but I still never caught that tension I liked in the books. Too much focus on the fight and romantic scenes...
Have you seen the "Extended Editions", rather than the cinema releases? They put a lot of stuff back into the extended versions, specifically for the fans of the book.
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Have you seen the "Extended Editions", rather than the cinema releases? They put a lot of stuff back into the extended versions, specifically for the fans of the book.
I've seen only the extended versions, and I thought they did as good of job as the medium can do.

Much better, than the early Harry Potter movies.
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I'm wracking my brains to thnk of bad movies made from good books or stories, but I keep coming up against 'great and good' movies based on fiction.

To Kill a Mockingbird
The Grapes of Wraith
Rollerball (completely different than the original short story, while still keeping the theme)
Dances With Wolves
The Virgin Suicides
Snow Falling on Cedars
Carrie, Dolores Claiborne, The Shawshank Redemption, Misery, The Green Mile
Double Indemnity, The Postman Always Rings Twice
The Big Sleep, The Maltese Falcon
Planet of the Apes (And I love the original novel by Pierre Boulle, but it's a different beast altogether as a film)
The Omega Man
Soylent Green
Something Wicked This Way Comes
The Man in the Ice Cream Suit

The list seems endless .....
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Oh, i forgot one: The earthsea series by Ursula K. Le Guin. A great read - but the movie was like a B-movie.
That adaptation made me want to cry

I think what they were trying to do was to capitalize on the popularity of Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings, and make it as much like those as possible. My roommates at the time (who had never read the books) liked it.
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And I'm tempted to say Frankenstein, considering how cheesy and unlike the original novel the movie turned out to be.
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Some of them were classics though. The green mile, cujo, carrie.
But yeah, "IT" was a shocker as I am sure many others were.
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"What book was a total disaster when made into a film?"

Most book adaptations are crap. There are a few exceptions.
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