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Old 05-04-2016, 07:12 PM   #46
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I wasn't aware of a meaningful market for reproductions of handmade art.

Regardless, pictures are copyrighted so I don't see why paintings wouldn't also be.
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I wasn't aware of a meaningful market for reproductions of handmade art.

Regardless, pictures are copyrighted so I don't see why paintings wouldn't also be.
Eh?

I'm referring to painting/sculptures etc that are made and sold in the creator's lifetime, and quite possibly become very well acknowledged in terms of both art and price in that lifetime. (Well, I'm talking about all art/sculpture irrespective of it's value, because just like an author their writings may never be acknowledged or consider of interest or value)
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Well, I though the point was the artistic value of the handmade aspect, so why would anyone want a soulless mass-produced fake? Don't people usually get their Art fix in galleries and museums?
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Well, I though the point was the artistic value of the handmade aspect, so why would anyone want a soulless mass-produced fake? Don't people usually get their Art fix in galleries and museums?
okay, so I'm still a bit confused .....

I refer to the original of the art work and the fact there there is no 'royalty' associated with the sale. So, once the creator sells it then it's financial remuneration is satisfied irrespective of mow many times, over x years/centuries, it's on-sold.

There apparently is quite a market in art forgeries, but I make no comment about that market.
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okay, so I'm still a bit confused .....

I refer to the original of the art work and the fact there there is no 'royalty' associated with the sale. So, once the creator sells it then it's financial remuneration is satisfied irrespective of mow many times, over x years/centuries, it's on-sold.

There apparently is quite a market in art forgeries, but I make no comment about that market.
Though there is only one original, there are also distribution rights for lithos / other print types, and licensing for other uses. It works the same as with photography. The creator retains those rights unless he or she sells the rights. So, it can be much more than a one-off sale, but it doesn't have to be - there can be exclusivity agreements which may cover all usage or just one type. For example, an artist might sell the exclusive right to their art for use on a book cover, ensuring that no other book will use the same image. In that particular case, the artist may still retain the right to license the image for other types of usage.
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okay, so I'm still a bit confused .....

I refer to the original of the art work and the fact there there is no 'royalty' associated with the sale. So, once the creator sells it then it's financial remuneration is satisfied irrespective of mow many times, over x years/centuries, it's on-sold.

There apparently is quite a market in art forgeries, but I make no comment about that market.
And now I am confused.

Why on earth would resale get the creator a royalty, any more than resale of used paper books?
Or selling a house for the fifteenth time should get the construction crew a new salary???


That has nothing whatsoever to do with copyright!
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And now I am confused.

Why on earth would resale get the creator a royalty, any more than resale of used paper books?
Or selling a house for the fifteenth time should get the construction crew a new salary???


That has nothing whatsoever to do with copyright!
Depending on the art, there is quite a market for prints, think velvet Elvis or some of the art that one finds in SF&F conventions for example.

It's really quite straight forward, copyright is the right to copy. The individual works falls under first sale principle, i.e. once the artist sales a painting to someone, he no longer controls what happens to the painting. You can sell it to anyone for however much you like without the artist getting a dime. However, you can't make copies of the painting without the artist permission.
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Copyright actually originated not to protect artists but as a means of government censorship. It has quite an interesting history. But its reason for existence soon came to be what it ostensibly exists for today. The US Constitution specifies the raison de etre for copyright as:

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Unfortunately these worthy goals have been subverted, in some cases to the point where they have the opposite effect to that intended. The most notable example of this is the current woeful situation in academic publishing, where progress in at least the Sciences is in fact damaged by copyright. I would argue that it is has also been subverted, though perhaps not to the same extent. Clearly this clause contemplates that the benefits will accrue to "Authors and Inventors". Not Publishers and Investors. But not directly for the purpose of enriching those authors or inventors. For the purpose of promoting the progress of Science and useful Arts. The exploitation of Authors by the Publishing Industry has left little or even no financial incentive for the vast majority of authors. Things are even worse now that the Publishers are part of huge Multinational Groups who are engaging in a rights grab to enhance their balance sheets. Of course, many still write for various reasons, including the sheer love for their art, but would do so irrespective of copyright.

Having said this I do believe we need copyright laws, but sane ones which protect authors from exploitation and make sure that the purposes of copyright law are achieved both in theory and in practice. Copyright should certainly extend to the life of the author. And I think there is a strong case for it continuing for some reasonable time after the authors death. But 70 years? And do we continue to pretend that the benefits of copyright extend to authors when the reality is that most have assigned or licensed that property for the whole term of the copyright? Do we continue to pretend that authors or their heirs are making huge amounts in royalties when in fa t this is true of only a very lucky few? And do we continue to pretend that this continuing extension of the copyright term does anything to promote Science or Useful Arts? It is about time for a re-think.
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I don't actually see a strong case for it continuing past the author's death.

Although I see a strong case for it continuing past the author's death in the specific case where the author did not live very long.
EDIT: "live very long" as in after writing the book -- general statistics on longevity in professional writers aren't very meaningful or interesting.


So although by rights we should really go back to 14 years with a renewal option for an additional 14 years (total 28) and on a strict opt-in basis (!!!) ... I will be generous and vote for automatic copyright, at life or 50 whichever is longer.

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I don't actually see a strong case for it continuing past the author's death.

Although I see a strong case for it continuing past the author's death in the specific case where the author did not live very long.


So although by rights we should really go back to 14 years with a renewal option for an additional 14 years (total 28) and on a strict opt-in basis (!!!) ... I will be generous and vote for automatic copyright, at life or 50 whichever is longer.
The strong case for it continuing past the authors death, at least in my opinion, is not only where the author does not live very long but also where works are written towards the end of an author's life. As an author gets older and/or begins to have health problems then they will find it almost impossible to sell or license their work if copyright is limited only to their life. Given that a publisher has traditionally made most of the money on a book in the first year or so, life + 5 (or at the outside 10) years may be justified. Also, though not necessary to achieve the stated goals in the US Constitution I would like to see an author have at least some rights over their works during the whole of their lifetime. If not a complete monopoly, this could extend to moral rights after the expiration. Or perhaps a non-exclusive statutory licensing scheme between expiration and death. There are many possibilities which would achieve the relevant purposes far better than the present regime.

I don't have a problem with Heirs getting some benefit, but like you and for the same reasons I don't think it is appropriate to equate copyright or other intellectual property with tangible property. So many Amazon bashers mistakenly classify Amazon as a monopoly, which is meant as a slur. It assumes a monopoly is a bad thing. And today, with the emphasis on competition policy, it is generally accepted that this is the case. Yet suddenly, when talking about Copyright and other intellectual property, monopoly becomes good?

What we have is a case of balancing public policy goals. Competition is good. Monopolies are bad for competition. Encouraging the advancement of science and arts is good. So we encourage it by letting Authors and Inventors have this bad thing, a monopoly. For a limited time. Unfortunately the balance has long been lost.
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I refer to the original of the art work and the fact there there is no 'royalty' associated with the sale. So, once the creator sells it then it's financial remuneration is satisfied irrespective of mow many times, over x years/centuries, it's on-sold.
Oh, but there is - within the EU, at least. If a work is sold by a dealer, gallery, or at auction for €1000 or more, a royalty of between 4% and 0.25% of the sale price is received by the artist as a royalty payment (the higher the price, the lower the percentage). This is called the "Artist Resale Right" and lasts for the duration of copyright. The maximum payment is €12,500, which will be received if the work sells for €2m or more.

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I don't actually see a strong case for it continuing past the author's death.

Although I see a strong case for it continuing past the author's death in the specific case where the author did not live very long.
EDIT: "live very long" as in after writing the book -- general statistics on longevity in professional writers aren't very meaningful or interesting.


So although by rights we should really go back to 14 years with a renewal option for an additional 14 years (total 28) and on a strict opt-in basis (!!!) ... I will be generous and vote for automatic copyright, at life or 50 whichever is longer.
A majority of works earn most of what they will earn within the first year or two of a release. Ebooks change that dynamic a little bit, but not much. Some authors generate a nice cash flow from their backlist books, but not many. For the most part, copyright law is driven by large corporations such as Disney and big name authors (note, the Berne Convention was driven by Victor Hugo). In general, I think that we as a society would be better served using a two tier approach, one tier for the big money makers and one tier for the other 95% of books (or whatever the actual split is).
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A majority of works earn most of what they will earn within the first year or two of a release. Ebooks change that dynamic a little bit, but not much. Some authors generate a nice cash flow from their backlist books, but not many.
This is the point the Productivity Commission makes, if anyone has read the actual report.

"For example, the addition of twenty years of protection many years in the future, such as occurred when Australia increased term from life plus 50 years to life plus 70 years (a requirement introduced with the Australia-United States Free Trade Agreement) only increases average revenue by 0.33 per cent [...]

Indeed, evidence suggests the vast majority of works do not make commercial returns beyond their first couple of years on the market (Australian Copyright Council, sub. 36). The ABS estimates:
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• literary works provide returns for between 1.4 and 5 years on average. Three quarters of original titles are retired after a year and by 2 years, 90 per cent of originals are out of print. [...]

Landes and Posner (2002) argue a term of around 25 years enables rights holders to generate revenue comparable to what they would receive in perpetuity (in present value terms), without imposing onerous costs on consumers5 and suggests that a term of around 25 years is sufficient to incentivise creative effort. However, this is only an indicative period because the lower the discount rate used, the greater the term should be, and the authors used a relatively high real discount rate. In addition, any estimate of optimal term duration must make assumptions about the pattern of demand for the works over time — a difficult task. The truly ‘optimal’ period may accordingly be more or less than 25 years after creation but it is completely implausible it could ever be 70 years after death."

I'm guessing that the only works still earning significantly 10-20 years after the death of an author are the Harry-Potter-level blockbusters. In which case I'm guessing that dependent heirs have been rather well cared for already by the rewards earned during the author's lifetime.
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Landes and Posner (2002) argue a term of around 25 years enables rights holders to generate revenue comparable to what they would receive in perpetuity (in present value terms), without imposing onerous costs on consumers5 and suggests that a term of around 25 years is sufficient to incentivise creative effort. However, this is only an indicative period because the lower the discount rate used, the greater the term should be,
Can you explain what you mean by the term "discount rate"? That's not an expression I'm familiar with.
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Can you explain what you mean by the term "discount rate"? That's not an expression I'm familiar with.
Not me, the PC report writers. Here's an explanation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royalt...ncome_approach
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