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Old 09-01-2015, 08:42 PM   #46
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You buy an ePub format eBook. You use Calibre to convert to KF8. You side load onto your Kindle and your Kindle app on your phone. There isn't a valid ASIN. Will this eBook be synced between the Kindle and the app?
No, because you cannot send a plain KF8 to your send-to-email address.
Thus, in your example, you cannot first pass the books through the Personal Documents service, and they won't be synced.


I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.
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I've sent quite a few books to my Kindles via Amazon using Send to Kindle and directly emailing them. These are books purchased from several sources and the few that have DRM have been removed.

I'm nervous about doing this on any kind of scale, and by scale I mean more than one every few weeks. I'm not sure I'm breaking any law doing this although I'm not sure I'm not, either. I suspect that I'm violating various terms of service.
The only law or ToS you are potentially violating would be when you remove the DRM itself.

Note that Baen has always offered you the ability to have your books emailed to your Kindle. But they don't use DRM.

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Anyway that was mentioned a few times in this thread and I'm wondering if anyone feels that this is risky. I don't want to get in trouble with Amazon. I buy about 98% of my books from them.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Or is this even a proper question to ask here. And if it's not, please just delete it. But if it is I'd like to know what people think about it.
It isn't risky, lots of people do that.

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I should say that the majority of the books I send to my Kindle via Amazon's conversion are legitimately purchased somewhere.

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Now, this is the one thing that might get you in trouble, here or anywhere else. The fact that you feel the need to qualify that "most" of the books you send to Amazon PDOCs are not pirated.
Implying that you are publicly acknowledging some of the ones you send to Amazon PDOCs are pirated, and perhaps that some or more than some of the books you don't send to Amazon PDOCs are pirated.


We don't really approve of piracy around here.
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What makes it heavier is the cover, without it the weight is negligible. The only real peeve i have with Kobo is their flaky firmware, every 2 -3 months or some such out of the blue Calibre notices an error and does not want to sync with the reader any more,
That shouldn't be happening. Have you investigated why it is?
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only a log out and log in fixes it, but that throws out your reading history for all none Kobo books, i wish they would include those in syncs, as i read many books, and often multiples, it is a bitch when he forgets what i was reading :-(
As you are a calibre user, get my Kobo Utilities plugin. It has lots of functions, but the two you might be interested in is to backup the database so that you can restore it if there is a problem. And it can store the status of the books. These can be restored after a corrupt database incident. Or to another Kobo device if you upgrade.
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Implying that you are publicly acknowledging some of the ones you send to Amazon PDOCs are pirated, and perhaps that some or more than some of the books you don't send to Amazon PDOCs are pirated.


We don't really approve of piracy around here.
I don't really care much about piracy one way or the other. However, when I want to read a book I buy it if I can. Not because I'm against piracy but because I'm in favor of honest business. However, there are books I can't buy as ebooks legitimately and I have no problem getting them elsewhere.

I should mention that I find it pretty difficult to read a book in any form other than as an ebook. I'm 74 and my eyes aren't what they used to be.

Anyway, I buy the vast majority of my books because most are available to buy. The few exceptions, and they are few, are otherwise unavailable. I won't apologize for this because I don't feel that it's wrong to read a book and I'd be apologizing for exactly that.

It's also worth mentioning that I've been reading ebooks since many years before you could buy them at all. Long before the internet was available to the public; long before the word "piracy" had anything to do with media, people on Compuserve were buying books and scanning them and sharing them with each other. Compuserve had a very strict and serious no-piracy policy but in those days piracy meant sharing software. They provided us space to share books. It wasn't considered wrong or immoral or piracy. It wasn't till years later that publishers knew or cared about this. They were in the paper book business. The world didn't know about ebooks yet.

Piracy concerning digital media is a fairly recent concept when you're my age. Honesty isn't a new concept and that's why I buy the books I read if someone will sell them to me.

Interestingly I had a similar discussion with someone recently here where I live, only then we were talking about profanity, which, as we know it today, is a fairly recent concept. He was going to research a biblical passage to prove that it was a sin until I explained to him that the concept didn't exist in biblical times. I retired to the bible belt and this sort of discussion comes up
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Anyway, my real question was about whether anyone thinks I might get in trouble with Amazon by sending these books, nearly all legitimate, through Amazon's conversion.

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From what I have read, any of the kobos will be good choices for epub format. I just ordered a h2o because of this capability (my library is mainly epubs from nook). I know it is possible to convert books and have done so in the past. The kobo can read epub and mobi so it's one less thing to worry about. Also, barnes and noble is releasing a new nook soon so that would be another device to check out. I love my NST w glowlight the physical buttons on the side are such a nice feature to have. So to sum up, it sounds like the new nook, kobo glo hd, aura, or new kobo touch 2.0 for your needs. If you can get the kobo mini cheaply I would definitely recommend doing so. This would let you see what kobo software is like, and it never hurts to have a backup device.

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From what I have read, any of the kobos will be good choices for epub format. I just ordered a h2o because of this capability (my library is mainly epubs from nook). I know it is possible to convert books and have done so in the past. The kobo can read epub and mobi so it's one less thing to worry about. Also, barnes and noble is releasing a new nook soon so that would be another device to check out. I love my NST w glowlight the physical buttons on the side are such a nice feature to have. So to sum up, it sounds like the new nook, kobo glo hd, aura, or new kobo touch 2.0 for your needs. If you can get the kobo mini cheaply I would definitely recommend doing so. This would let you see what kobo software is like, and it never hurts to have a backup device.

Just thought I'd give my 2c.
So you're saying kobo reads mobi format too? I didn't realize this. It can't read a actual Kindle file though, can it? I'm only asking because sometimes I can't get a book on kobo and I need to buy on B&N or Amazon with my US account. And I just realized you can't download your nook books anymore so now I lost those. So I doubt I'll buy any more from B&N.

I did get the kobo Aura and the mini. I figured I could keep the mini in my purse. I like the aura a lot in some ways, but I'm finding the touch screen is wonky at times and twice now it's made the font go crazy big or small and I have to take time out to adjust it (and I didn't even have more than one part of one finger touching the screen so I wasn't pinching it). It doesn't always register my touches or swipes either to turn the page. I'm going to see if I can get help in the kobo section. Maybe it's the new firmware.
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Barry, I don't really think Amazon will care that you're sending those books to your Kindle. I'm not in the loop much these days but I've been reading about others doing what you're doing and I haven't read anything negative from Amazon yet. Hopefully somebody else will know more.
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Yes kobo scan read mobis out of the box. They can't read kindle format, apparently it's relatively easy to deDRM Amazon files then convert to mobi or ePub but I haven't personally done this yet. Sorry to hear about your screen issues hopefully it's something simple like a software update.
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So you're saying kobo reads mobi format too?
Yes, but it doesn't do it well. It's a lot better to convert the Mobi to ePub.
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Yes kobo scan read mobis out of the box. They can't read kindle format, apparently it's relatively easy to deDRM Amazon files then convert to mobi or ePub but I haven't personally done this yet. Sorry to hear about your screen issues hopefully it's something simple like a software update.
MOBI *is* Kindle format.



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Kobo's do not have access to Amazon's custom DRM decryption scheme, of course, but that is irrelevant -- as per my post #3 books should already be DeDRMed.
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Didn't realize kf8 was a mobi file. Like I said I've never had to do any deDRM (yet).
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Didn't realize kf8 was a mobi file. Like I said I've never had to do any deDRM (yet).
When people talk about Mobi files they generally mean the original "Mobipocket" format. "KF8" is "Kindle Format 8", which is a later, Amazon-specific format.
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No, when people talk about "Kindle format" they mean "format that Kindles read, almost always seen in the context of Kindles, owned by Amazon, with a DRM scheme used exclusively by Amazon, and which nothing other than Amazon Kindles use by choice".


Unless you are seriously suggesting people in general know or care about the history and composition of mobipocket wrappers.
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I agree, but the previous poster did not say "Kindle format", but "mobi file", which is not the same thing at all. Many devices other than Kindles have, over the years, been able to read mobi files.
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What i meant was can the Kobo read an actual Kindle ebook? I didn't think anything but a Kindle could. I have deDRM a kindle book before but I can't remember how and it was years ago so I am sure that process has changed. The format probably has at well.
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