MobileRead September 2015 Book Club Vote - Page 4

CRussel · 08-30-2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by din155

I want to read The Golden Compass, Candide does not interest me this month. Just a few more votes for The Golden Compass

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Read it regardless. I find I often do that, when there's a book that doesn't make it but that I was interested in.

din155 · 08-30-2015, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CRussel

Read it regardless. I find I often do that, when there's a book that doesn't make it but that I was interested in.

I am planning to buy the audiobook.

Dazrin · 08-31-2015, 11:38 AM

No run-off vote this month although it was another fairly close vote.

issybird · 08-31-2015, 11:58 AM

Well, Voltaire was a freethinker and most particularly opposed the established Roman Catholic church.

eschwartz · 08-31-2015, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Anybody who votes for Mein Kampf is an unfeeling person who doesn't care about anyone else. This book should never have been allowed. I don't give a dam if this is censorship or not. It's something that is very personal and very hurtful to have it in the list and to have been allowed there. If it's not taken down, then I will be protesting to Alex to deal with it. What I would like to say about the people who nominated/voted for this book would get me banned from MR. And I feel very sorry for this book club when it's leader is allowing this to be here. This is something that needs to be addressed and addressed now! I never thought anyone on MR could be so mean and nasty.

As a religious Jew whose extended family fled the persecutions in Europe, I find absolutely nothing wrong with MobileRead engaging in a literary/critical reading of hate speech like Mein Kampf.

The topic of the book club is currently "banned books" -- I assume the purpose of the event is in order to discuss why the chosen book was banned.

Again, as a religious Jew...
nothing would please me more than for the general populace to have more awareness of sensitive issues such as this.

Whether the MR Book Club is equipped to deal with that specific scope, I do not know. (It is, after all, an unusually deep and introspective topic.)
What I do know is that you are damaging the cause you claim

to be defending.

"Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it."

As sun surfer noted (emphasis mine):

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Originally Posted by sun surfer

Of interest, Mein Kampf will become public domain in Germany at the beginning of 2016 and the outright ban will end with the publication of a scholarly edition of the book filled with critical analysis, raising its page count from the original 700 to over 2,000 and will be not only sold but also distributed to schools. Some object but The Central Council of Jews in Germany are in support.

There is an extraordinarily good reason.

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Originally Posted by ccowie

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It’s my sense that there is no one here who has been lurking in the club awaiting the opportunity to read an evil work by an evil man because they’re seeking some input and coaching on how to encourage fascism and genocide. Nor is anyone trying to be mean and nasty to others. The club seems pretty interested in reading banned books through the lens of our current world and sensibilities to discuss their literary, historical and possibly political merits. The reason I won’t vote for the book in question is because I have read it and can discuss ad nauseam the frightening horrors it contains. I have no desire to read it again.

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I don’t mind hearing why you’re not interesting in reading something, in fact I appreciate that. Really! But no one in the club benefits from being called names for their reading interests.

Well said.

BenG · 08-31-2015, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by din155

I am planning to buy the audiobook.

The audiobooks are excellent. They're narrated by Pullman with the help of a full cast of voice actors.

CRussel · 08-31-2015, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BenG

The audiobooks are excellent. They're narrated by Pullman with the help of a full cast of voice actors.

Agreed. I've got the full trilogy as Audible books.

din155 · 08-31-2015, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BenG

The audiobooks are excellent. They're narrated by Pullman with the help of a full cast of voice actors.

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Originally Posted by CRussel

Agreed. I've got the full trilogy as Audible books.

Just noticed that all three books are available in my library as audiobooks

Sorry, I won't derail this thread any further.

din155 · 08-31-2015, 04:59 PM

Back to the winner of this month, can anyone suggest me a good audiobook copy of candide. The one read by Flo Gibson is simply horrible to listen but it is the cheapest.

Sorry, I see CRussel has already posted the link for the one narrated by Don Hagen which sounds better than the one suggested by Amazon.

CRussel · 08-31-2015, 05:29 PM

Yes, I just bought the Hagen one, as a Whispersync book. (I had to work backwards from the Audible book to identify the correct Kindle book, buy the Kindle book and then buy the Audible book.)

HarryT · 08-31-2015, 05:51 PM

Are you reading/listening to it in the French original, or an English translation? If the latter, it's worth considering which is the best translation. That's far more important than who reads it.

Almamida · 08-31-2015, 06:09 PM

As this one was originally written in French, I'll read it in French.
I didn't expected that for my first book in this bookclub. I'm here to try to learn to read "fluently" english/american books.

din155 · 08-31-2015, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Are you reading/listening to it in the French original, or an English translation? If the latter, it's worth considering which is the best translation. That's far more important than who reads it.

English translation. I will read the mobileread version but in case I don't get time I want the audiobook handy. Would you recommend any translation?

WT Sharpe · 08-31-2015, 07:21 PM

I've already read Candide at least twice, but since it's short I guess I'll go for a third or maybe fourth time. This time around, I think I'll do it as an audiobook, though. Librivox has it. There's a collaborative English version, as well as solo versions in English and French. As it's been my experience that the solo versions are generally better, I'll go with the English solo version.

bfisher · 08-31-2015, 08:21 PM

I read Candide more than 40 years ago, so it will be almost like new again for me. Are there any particularly good translations to choose from?

View Poll Results: Which BANNED BOOK shall we discuss in September?
*Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's [UK:* …Philosopher's] Stone** by J.K. Rowling	10	30.30%
The Perks of Being a Wallflower by Stephen Chbosky	6	18.18%
The Earth, My Butt, and Other Big, Round Things by Carolyn Mackler	2	6.06%
*The Golden Compass [UK:* The Northern Lights]** by Philip Pullman	14	42.42%
Candide by Voltaire	16	48.48%
Can Such Things Be? by Ambrose Bierce	10	30.30%
One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn	12	36.36%
Beloved by Toni Morrison	9	27.27%
The Castle by Franz Kafka	12	36.36%
Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler	6	18.18%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

08-31-2015, 04:59 PM	#54
din155 Guru Posts: 880 Karma: 7556602 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: UK Device: Kindle PW, Win 10 thinkpad 8in	Back to the winner of this month, can anyone suggest me a good audiobook copy of candide. The one read by Flo Gibson is simply horrible to listen but it is the cheapest. Sorry, I see CRussel has already posted the link for the one narrated by Don Hagen which sounds better than the one suggested by Amazon. Last edited by din155; 08-31-2015 at 05:13 PM. Reason: update

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08-31-2015, 11:38 AM	#48
Dazrin Wizard Posts: 2,730 Karma: 75825105 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: PDXish Device: Kindle Voyage, various Android devices	No run-off vote this month although it was another fairly close vote.

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issybird o saeclum infacetum Posts: 21,331 Karma: 234636059 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New England Device: Mini, H2O, Glo HD, Aura One, PW4, PW5	Well, Voltaire was a freethinker and most particularly opposed the established Roman Catholic church.

08-31-2015, 05:29 PM	#55
CRussel (he/him/his) Posts: 12,296 Karma: 80074820 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Sunshine Coast, BC Device: Oasis (Gen3),Paperwhite (Gen10), Voyage, Paperwhite(orig), iPad Air M3	Yes, I just bought the Hagen one, as a Whispersync book. (I had to work backwards from the Audible book to identify the correct Kindle book, buy the Kindle book and then buy the Audible book.)

08-31-2015, 05:51 PM	#56
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,557 Karma: 93980341 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Are you reading/listening to it in the French original, or an English translation? If the latter, it's worth considering which is the best translation. That's far more important than who reads it.

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Almamida Guru Posts: 685 Karma: 11431990 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Toronto, Canada Device: Kobo Sage - Kindle PW5 & Voyage - iPad Pro M1 12.9	As this one was originally written in French, I'll read it in French. I didn't expected that for my first book in this bookclub. I'm here to try to learn to read "fluently" english/american books.

08-31-2015, 07:21 PM	#59
WT Sharpe Bah, humbug! Posts: 39,072 Karma: 157049943 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chesapeake, VA, USA Device: Kindle Oasis, iPad Pro, & a Samsung Galaxy S9.	I've already read Candide at least twice, but since it's short I guess I'll go for a third or maybe fourth time. This time around, I think I'll do it as an audiobook, though. Librivox has it. There's a collaborative English version, as well as solo versions in English and French. As it's been my experience that the solo versions are generally better, I'll go with the English solo version.

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